Trouble with knots

Having been stabbing my fingers for years with diabeties it’s getting harder to tie on to my leader. I have been using a clinch knot with some difficulty. I came across this Cinch Tie tool and it looks like somrthing that works pretty well. Has anyone ever used one? Website has a video
http://www.cinchtie.com/

I haven’t uesd one of those, but have been considering tying a short bit of tippet on my flies with a loop in the end so I can do a loop to loop when out.

I find the Hemostat Clinch Knot easier to tie than using any of the specialized knot tying tools. Lefty Kreh described it in his latest knot tying book and also in an article in Flyfishermen magazine a couple of years ago.

Here are references to two online videos.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDUm9iZi4qg
This demo only shows three turns. Five is better for most trout tippets.

A better video is here

http://community.flyfisherman.com/video
To find the video, look for the red bar that has the words “Upload A Video!” in in it. In the blue area below you will see some words “Recent Videos”, “Destinations”, “Fly Tying” and “New Products”. To the right of “New Products” is an icon for a drop down menu and then an arrow. Select the drop down menu and then select “Knot Tying”, or click on the arrow until knot tying is displayed and click on “Knot Tying”. You will get a list of knot tying videos, one of which is the Hemostat clinch knot.

I used one for about three years when I fished with my spinning rod. I finally I lost it and since I don’t spin fish that often anymore, I never replaced it. They are very simple to use and will make tying the cinch knot a breeze, even when your hands are cold.

Jim Smith

Donat,

This is a tool that I strongly recommend everyone have. Orvis sells one as does Cabela’s and there are a couple of other companies that do as well. I love this tool and it is always attached to my Mayfly Pouch Lanyard. I use it all the time for what I call a Triple Surgeons Knot to attach my tippet to my leader, a very strong knot and easy to tie. (For the Triple Surgeons Knot just follow the directions in the booklet for the Improved Surgeons Knot but wrap the lines three times around the shaft not two times. That is a great knot for fluorocarbon tippet to mono leader. The booklet shows 15 different knots you can tie with this tool.

Buy it, you will like it.

Larry —sagefisher—

Before you buy a tool, try the Weaver’s knot. The directions are in the FAOL knots section. Experiment with it just a bit and see if it doesn’t fix your problem. The knot is also a very strong one.

I’ve been using this one for years. I can tie on a fly on flies no matter how dark or windy it is and no matter how much my hands are shaking. If I can thread it, I can tie it on with this knot.

The knot oldfrat mentions is the one I, too, have been using for a long time. Seems sturdy and is easy to tie. You only have to put the end of the line through something (the eye of the hook) once. I’ve tried several tools and other knots, but keep coming back to this one.

Jeff

Some years ago I started having some problems with my tippet to fly knot.
I did a search here on FAOL and found the Weaver knot. Followed the drawing and presto, was hooked on the Weaver. I use it on all tippets. Nothing else.

I have never has this knot fail.

I find it does waste a bit more tippet than some other knots, each time a fly is changed. So what?
Got to Love the Weaver knot.

Denny

Very glad to see others have found the Weavers knot useful. I found it in Mike Croft’s book, The Fish Bum’s guide to Catching Larger Trout. After seeing how much it helped me, I mentioned it on this board. JC and LF jumped on it and got Mike Croft’s permission to publish it on FAOL. Far as I know, this is still the only place you can find it online.

While it does chew up tippet, you can minimize that if you follow step 5 precisely. It seems more logical and easier to tighten things by pulling the fly down instead of sliding the knot up, but pulling the fly down increases the amount of tippet wasted by a lot.

I view tippet as a heck of a lot cheaper than time with my fly in the water! I’d rather waste a bit more tippet on the tie than time.

That gold cinch tool is a breeze to use!! my father who has some pretty bad pain in his hands, uses it, basically you just thread the leader through the eyelet, make a loop, spin it around a few times, grab the tag end and pull. The spring in the inside is very strong.

GREAT tool IMO.

The tool is a good one and easy to use with cold hands.
My only complaint is that I have lost the instruction card and they force you to pay for another to get the instructions for other knots.
I resent having to pay (I think $5.00 plus postage) for a little piece of paper telling me how to use the thing I paid for.
If they asked for a SASE and sent a photocopy I am happy with that.

I know why they do this but it still bugs me a little.
Great product though,

I appreciate all the responses. I tried the Weaver Knot today and was able to tie it a lot easier than the Clinch. The next trip to Cabela’s I will take a look at the tool, sounds like a good tool for me to use.

PS Caught a Bow and Brook on a #14 Griffith’s Gnat

Another tip for the Weaver’s knot. You can tie this knot even easier, especially in bad conditions, by temporarily fastening a small amount of soft weight to the hook of the fly as you tie the knot. The extra weight lets gravity really work for you. I keep a small amount of soft weight in some of my fly boxes for this purpose.

I also have a little problem with feeling in my finger’s somtime’s. I to like the clinch knot and have recently adopted the Ty-Rite tool. It hook’s into the bend of the hook so you can just run the line through the eye of the hook , give it spin and run the line through the loop and tighten. Besides helping tie quicker knot’s it also help’s to not drop those size 22 midge’s in the winter when you can hardly feel your finger’s anyway. $9.00 well spent for me.

Bad eyes and bad fingers make them little flies a real pain. I take a variety of pre-tied with me, but sometimes you gotta tie one in the middle of the river. I resort to the Buzz Bomb knot. you tie an overhand knot near the end of the tippet… after threading the fly of course. Then tie a 2 turn clinch knot, making sure that overhand knot is through the loop before you cinch it. Of course a 2 turn knot slips, but only until the over hand knot stops it. Its a fairly strong, quick knot courtesy of the hardware flingers. I’ve hauled in steelhead up to 20 pounds and Chinook to about 40 pounds with it.

Larry