The Rise Form Of Trout

Thought you might be interested in some more of my ramblings. Apologies if I have did this one before.

Much is discussed on forums but this topic is one I have not encountered and which is of the utmost importance to fly fishermen. Being able to determine not just what a trout is feeding on but what it may be feeding on by the rise it makes is most important when determining what fly type to use.
First of all what is a rise?
Basically it is a surface or sub surface disturbance caused by feeding fish. But seeing a rise does not necessary mean that the fish has taken a surface fly, it depends on what part of the fish has caused the disturbance.
Rises can be broken into 6-7 types & I will deal with a few of the most common.

Slashing
The Trout breaks surface with an audible splash. It is probably after large flies at the surface whether emerging Sedge, large Mayfly or surface blown such as Hawthorne, Daddy & at night Moth

Surface Rise (Sip) or "Nosing Rise
I’ll lump these two together as they are similar. Can be audible but the sip has the barest tell tale ring to betray its presence, more of a dimple than anything else. You can see these occasionally on lochs early morning in a flat calm.
Recently drowned insects, small newly hatched flies breaking free from their nymphal shucks or small flies alighting on surface. In the case of the Nosing Rise, sometimes a few bubbles are left, this is caused when the Trout takes a large up-wing or any fly that sits high up in the water. The bubbles are caused by the air drawn in being expended. More of a slurp than a sip & a bit more “violent” but watch out of the concentric circles it produces & invariably the Trout’s nose or Neb can be discerned.

Head & Tail Rise
The Trout rises, head back then tail shows before rolling onto it’s prey. Surface bound nymph & emergers are the intended target either on the way up or down but on occasion newly emerged flies stuck in the surface film.

Boil
Not to be confused with the Slash, Trout displaying this property is invariably feeding on ascending nymphs & pupa but well below surface. The water appears to rise or hump

Tailing
Fish feeding on shrimp around weed beds will sometime be perpendicular & the waving tail betrays what they are doing
They may change station after capturing it’s prey & drop back a few yards but will continue thereafter.
Those listed are the most common though there are others or variations on the ones I have mentioned.
One unique one you might encounter on a river & unknown too many is the Kidney rise. A quiet rise but leaves a double whorl on the surface. It is very common with Trout feeding on Blue Winged Olives.
Last but not least Bow Waving Trout are usually attacking fry & minnow in the shallows & indeed on occasion act together & force them into shallow water where they will attack. This is quite common late season in lowland lochs.

Hope this helps some.
Tight Lines

PS Are they more?, lets hear your thoughts.

Great refresher for seasoned anglers among us, as well
should be very insightful to the new-bees…

Makes me yearn for the gulpers in Montana :slight_smile:

As always your ramblings are top shelf…

Be well

Steve

… is the non-rise.

Whereas it is generally true, as you say -“But seeing a rise does not necessary mean that the fish has taken a surface fly” - it is also some times true that not seeing a rise does not necessary mean that the fish has not taken a surface fly.

One of the really interesting “takes” of a dry fly is by a big cutthroat in moving water. They rise to the dry and inhale it in such a way that there is no disturbance of the surface. A cutthroat rising to a dry fly is one of the great sights in fly fishing, and to watch them take a fly this way and then start their descent to the bottom leaving no sign of a rise is one of the more intriguing things that can happen on a trout stream.

John

This thread is going to be educational…
John, would you speak a wee bit louder, aka: larger fonts :slight_smile:
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Steve

What about when they jump into the air, one, two or three feet above the water surface, even higher.
Are they after something (fry?) or just happy?

Thorarinn

If you haven’t read this, you should. Vince had it covered in 1976.

I had the privilege of editing The Ring of the Rise for technical sections on Montana before the ‘real’ editors got it…it is a wonderful book!
I believe Vince is highly underrated in this country, although he has hit guru standards in Europe and the UK.

In the Ring of the Rise has held a special place in my library for over thirty years.
Mr. Marinaro was a most thoughtful angler who dedicated his life to the study of trout behavior, bamboo rod design (very different thoughts than most), technique,
photography, and a host of related subjects. A true trout fishing Rennaisance man. If you haven’t read this book you really should, in my opinion.

Great to know you were a contributing editor Ladyfisher. You continue to amaze!

Bob

Vince is one of my heroes. Long live the “puddle cast”!

Highlander,

One of the first fly fishing books I got back in the early 70’s, was V. Marinaro’s - Modern Dry Fly Code & In the Ring of the Rise. He had a lot of influence on me early on, especially dealing with fishing the limestoners here in Penna. Thanks for the thread.

Best regards, Dave S.

You’ve forgot the most frustrating rise form…the refusal! :smiley:

“smutting rise”

whats that all about??

I believe that’s when an uncouth trout rises and lets go a string of profanities!