Soft Hackle Question

I think I have read the entire fly-tying section by Al Campbell, one pattern that I would like to learn how to tie is the soft hackle using partridge. They are a good pattern for here in Missouri, what are some good “types” of partridge, and how much should I get? It seems they are expensive, are there alternatives, or to get a good fly do you need this. Also any other patterns that illustrate the tying of these patterns would be great. Thanks.
Drew


A bum-legged old man and a drunk. That’s all you got?
That’s WHAT I got.

When a patttern calls for partridge it usually means hungarian partridge. The best way to get it is to buy an entire skin if you can’t shoot one in your area this fall. Feathers from other game birds such as ruffled grouse or chuckar also work well. If you bag a bird that isn’t too shot up just skin it and dry the skin with borax.


all leaders tangle; mine are just better at it than most. Jim

Hi Drew. There are some soft hackle patterns in the Fly of The Week archives. [url=http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/archive.html:7a106]http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/archive.html[/url:7a106]
There are also alot of recipes for Soft Hackles at this site. [url=http://www.danica.com/flytier/:7a106]http://www.danica.com/flytier/[/url:7a106]
Hen (chicken) is a great alternative to game birds as a source for feathers, as is Starling.
Hope this helps,
Wayne
One other thing, heres a pattern that shows step by step instructions on how to tie a Soft Hackle. [url=http://www.danica.com/flytier/steps/poe/poe.htm:7a106]http://www.danica.com/flytier/steps/poe/poe.htm[/url:7a106]

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zim… I love tying and fishing soft hackles. One thing I have found is if at all possible, buy the skins and not the pre-packaged feathers. I have read somewhere that the skins hold oils even after being processed so the hackle stem stays softer and wraps better than the bagged feather where the stem can dry out and split.

Mike


There is no greater fan of flyfishing than the worm.

Patrick McManus

If you’re looking for proper Soft Hackles try this. [url=http://www.snipeandpurple.co.uk/:7c2cf]http://www.snipeandpurple.co.uk/[/url:7c2cf]

Dave Hughes’ book Wet Flies is a good reference. It has a brief history, tying instructions, good photos and notes on material selection.

Stu Farnham did a review of it here. [url=http://www.flyanglersonline.com/stufarnham/stu042902.html:994bd]http://www.flyanglersonline.com/stufarnham/stu042902.html[/url:994bd]

John

The Hungarian partridge skins are expensive, but I bet you could get 400 flies out of one skin if you put all the feathers to work.

This is my goto fly: [url=http://www.ozarkangler.com/education/lesson06.html:fd6b3]http://www.ozarkangler.com/education/lesson06.html[/url:fd6b3]

Thanks again to everyone, tied a couple of soft hackles last night, didn’t turn out too bad. I used some hen neck soft hackle, and ordered a partridge from one of the sponsers, kept it in “the family”, also cost less. When I get my digital camera I will take a picture of my creations, it is really quite fun to tie these.
Thanks again.
Drew


A bum-legged old man and a drunk. That’s all you got?
That’s WHAT I got.

If you are interested, here are the results of a Softhackle swap and a Flymph swap held here on FAOL.
The Softhackle [url=http://www.dtnicolson.dial.pipex.com/page28.html:c1fc5]http://www.dtnicolson.dial.pipex.com/page28.html[/url:c1fc5]

The Flymph swap [url=http://www.dtnicolson.dial.pipex.com/page30.html:c1fc5]http://www.dtnicolson.dial.pipex.com/page30.html[/url:c1fc5]

The Softhackle is on one page but the flymph is on several, I just needed an excuse to use my camera.


Donald/Scotland

What wonderful flies! Thanks for sharing them with us all.


LadyFisher, Publisher of
FAOL

I really enjoy tying and fishing soft hackles. I recently purchased 2 JV hens from Conranch hackle, and let’s just say I haven’t seen anything better

Donald, that dun spider’s a bit ruff [url=http://www.dtnicolson.dial.pipex.com/page36.html:07940]http://www.dtnicolson.dial.pipex.com/page36.html[/url:07940]

Roy

I will risk being flamed for advertising.
Our JV hens were developed for use of wet and dry fly wings.
After having them on the market for over 5 years our customers have found them to be (from what they tell me) the hackle of choice for Sof Hackle flys.
None of the books or articles and patterns we use tell you this so one has to take the word of the tiers using them, or try them yourself.
There is a reason for them being so good in tying Soft hackle flys. These JV’s are not barn yard hens but are true Genetic hens and all have the user friendly stem we tiers are used to in tying our dry flys. The plus side is the barbs flex in the water and attract fish better.
I have just returned from a 18 day jaunt down into Oklahoma and Arkansas and fished more soft hackle flys than ever before. My total fish brought to hand was the highest I have ever experienced. Why? I have to lay it on the JV hen hackle.
Several years ago I imported several breeder pairs of Hun Partridge and enjoyed breeding and selling them. Because of the JV hens we sold all of our breeding stock of the Huns this past year.
If you have not tried the JV hen hackle for your soft hackle flys, you are missing out.
Just my 2? worth from a breeder/tier/fly fisherman.
We do have lots of colors to suit your needs.
Denny


Denny
Denny@conranch.com
Co-Owner Conranch Hackles

If you like to fish softhackles, and want to use hungarian partridge, I don’t think you can do better than buying an entire skin. What’s expensive to one tier may not be expensive to another. Be your own judge… a full skin is about $20. If you think that’s expensive, think about how many ways you can blow $20… a couple of lunches during the week, about a dozen cups of coffee, about 10 store-bought flies. Unless you are a professional tier, my guess is that one skin will last you a lifetime.

Another solution… find someone to split it with. Buy one skin, turn it over and score teh back with an x-acto knife or razor blade. 1/2 of a skin is probably still a lifetime supply.

Just some thoughts.

Peter


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I use a lot of hen necks for my soft hackles. Work great.

Wet

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