Simms Wading Staff - 3pc vs 4pc

Having never owned a wading staff and having recently fished some unfamiliar water with a very rocky bottom and strong flow, I’ve decided it’s time this (almost) 50yo invest in one.

I’ve pretty much decided to get a Simms staff after reading many reviews on the web but as I’ve been searching around I notice that there appears to be 2 versions of their staff - a 3pc version that sells right arount $100 and a 4pc version that sells around $120. Looking at their website I only see the 4pc version advertised.

I’m guessing the 3pc has been discontinued and the 4pc is the “new” model.

Any thoughts or suggestions regarding which version I should consider? I’m a fairly large individual (although working to become smaller) so I definitely need a staff with some beef to it. I’m guessing the 4pc breaks down a little smaller so it’s easier to carry but I’m almost thinking one less joint would provide a stronger, stiffer staff.

Comments?

Skondolf,

My wife and I both use the Folstaf 50’’ 3/4’’ dia. these are very strong and fold down into 7 - 9’’ sections. They seem to be a bit stronger and have a better feel in your hand. We use them every time we go on the river or stream.

David L

I use a Folstaf but the joints have become so sticky I leave it full length and throw it behind the seat in my truck. I wouldn’t be without it.

Skondolf:

Being slightly familiar with the Simms joint system; I really doubt the number of sections will effect the strength any, if at all.

That being said, in my experience with a 7 piece Folstaf; I think you will be MUCH happier with a Simms staff that breaks down smaller. They are easier to carry around and deal with, especially when squatting or kneeling when you DON’T want them deployed. IMHO, buy the Simms 4 piece with confidence.

Waltryan:

I know you know this already but, Folstaf recommends rubbing the joints with plain paraffin or wax. It REALLY helps the joints come apart easier.

Safe wading, y’all!

I use a Folstaf and wouldn’t be without it. I second and third the parrafin. It will come apart easily. I keep a short piece of candle in my bag for that purpose. The thicker folstaff is much better than the thinner. The thinner one vibrates in fast water, the thicker version is rock steady.

Folstaff also has great service. For $20, they refurbished my Folstaf and returned it to me within a week.

i’ve used both Simms staffs because i lost the 3-piece one. the 4-piece one works just fine. i am on the petite side for an angler, though. if i were the hefty type, i might want a Folstaff. it’s worth remembering that any staff is really more of a balance aid than a true “hand up” unless you are pushing straight down on it.

A friend and I debated the Simms versus Folstaff issue for years and finally agreed to just disagree. Both are fine wading staffs. The Folstaff advantage is that it will deploy itself if you pull it from the holster and shake it. The Simms advantage is that the joints lock in place once deployed.

I don’t think your weight should have anything to do with the decision. Neither one is going to collapse on you if the tip is in the streambed and your hand is on the handle

I’ve been using the Simms 3pc staff for almost 5 years now without any problems and I weigh 350lbs. It’s always on my wading belt even I don’t need it. Not only do I use for helping me keep my balance in current, but I also use it judge water depth, make sure the bottom is solid enough (again I way 350lbs and sink into mud fast :stuck_out_tongue: ), and sometimes I’m able to use it to get my fly free when it snags the bottom.

Once the annodizing wears off aluminum on aluminum “grabs.” it works fine as a full length staff for me, fits nicely in my truck, and when I need it I don’t have to take it out of the holster.
And often when I need it I need it quick.

Thanks everyone for the replies. New 4-piece Simms will be ordered. I figure I’m worth the extra $20.