Shwapf swap - closed!

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Time for a new swap. If you aren’t familiar with a schwapf, check this out:
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/beginners/part9.html

For another variation, see this:
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/alcampbell/ac060704.html

First 12 to speak for a spot gets one. Be creative with your materials. Signup is open until May 31 or until full. Please read the following, and follow the rules.
Have your 12 flies to me no later than June 28. Tie them early if you need to, but don’t be late. If they aren’t on time, it isn’t fair to the other swappers, and I will return them to you. Make sure you have toe tags on your flies, return packaging and return postage (not metered) included with a crushproof container. I will PM shipping info when you sign up.
You don’t have to specify your specific material list when you sign up unless you want to, but try to put your own spin on the pattern by using different body materials and/or hair. I will post my materials after I experiment a little. I’m intending to use herl or punch yarn for the body. Not sure on the hair yet.

  1. ol’blue - rust brown punch yarn/fox squirrel and olive & orange chenille/raccoon - COMPLETE
  2. ibrb - possum/grey squirrel - RECEIVED
  3. sirrom - red fox/black punch yarn - RECEIVED
  4. bassman - skunk/seal - RECEIVED
  5. fly_flinger - red fox squirrel - RECEIVED
  6. eric-WD - blue unifloss/black squirrel - RECEIVED

Pictures are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/18922415@N02/collections/72157603238021357/

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This sounds like a good swap please count me in.
no name
material: gray squirrel tail and australian opossum.

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Welcome aboard!

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May I get in? Pattern TBD after some experimenting.
Chuck

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You are in. PMs sent with shipping info.

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I think I would like to try this one, with a Stinky Shwapf, I will be using Skunk hair and Seal Dubbing. If that is ok with everyone. Thanks John (It really doesn’t Stink LOL)

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Sounds cool. PM sent with shipping info, but for some reason I think you might already have it. :wink: :lol:
Thanks for joining up!

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Thanks Greg, and yes I do have your addy in my Swaps File. It is a pleasure to be in your swaps. John

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Bumping this one back up to the top. John

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i intended to go fishing this morning, but it has rained for the past 6 hours. I need some generic flies for a trip next weekend, so this swap topic inspired me…

my goto material for tying nymphs is red fox squirrel, so this is yet another variation and I am continually surpised at what one can create for this one animal. There are some many colors and types of hair on this one beast!

here is an assortment:

2 basic variants pictured here use SLF RFSN abdomen dubbing (ginger) or SLF RFSN thorax dubbing (mix various but basically grey) and RFS tail of two types for the hackle. there are 2 main types of hair on a RFS tail - the dorsal side of the tail is a mixture of ginger, grey, black, white, etc… usually banded and different at various seasons of harvest and the ventral side which is uniformly ginger/orange. uniquely, as you can see if a few of them above is that the tips of the dorsal tail hair are ginger/orange and if you tie the hair in just right, when you even the tips it leaves orange/ginger tips on the hackle, which is a really cool touch. one can really mix the colors up:

ginger body & ginger hackle
ginger body & darker hackle
thorax dub body & ginger hackle
thorax dub body and darker hackle

and here is the one I’d like to submit, unless there are protests or calls for a ginger variant. This one uses the RFSN thorax dubbing and dorsal RFS tail hackle - so the colors of the body and hackle are fairly uniform compared to each other, but have variations in themselves. and this one picture does not have the orange tips on the hackle…

this one has the SLF RFSN abdomen dubbing for the body and orange tips on the hackle. maybe I like this contrast better? the picture stinks - for whatever reason I can’t get the abdomen to light up and the body is too fat, but you might be able to see the difference. you can see the difference in the group above.

even after tying several this morning, there are some challenges in tying this fly for me… mainly getting the swept wing evened out all around the fly. i know it is not THAT big a deal and i suppose it could even just be layed back along the top and catch fish just fine, like the fly in the upper left of the group. the second challenge is getting the initial thread wraps around the swept wing. i know why the pictures of these flies I see have somewhat large heads; you realyl have to wrap back to capture the hair because it is relatively stiff. i suppose it would be different with different materials. i tried some with krystal flash and didn’t like my initial attempt.

lastly, should these flies be densely hackled or not? does it really matter?

Anyway, thanks for the inspiration, ol’ blue and I’d like to join in this swap. and to ward off being tardy I’ve already begun tying… :slight_smile:

oh and it has stopped raining so I’m going to go terrorize some bluegill with the 3wt and my new SHWAPFs!!!

fly_flinger

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lastly, should these flies be densely hackled or not? does it really matter?

I don’t think there is a hard and fast rule on that. It appears that Al Campbell had lots of variations, and used varying colors and materials to “match the hatch” and varied presentation as well for the situation. The examples I’ve seen from his articles appear to have thin bodies and sparse, swept wings, but I’ll bet that there are situations where fuller wings might be more productive. And you can see from the beetle in the second link above that sometimes a bigger body is just fine. That is the beauty of this pattern. Show us what works for you, and we’ll all compare patterns when we’re done with this one.

here is the one I’d like to submit, unless there are protests or calls for a ginger variant

Not from me. Tie your favorite variation. Welcome aboard, and I’ll get you a PM with shipping info shortly.

Greg

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Plenty of room left in this swap for tiers. Surely there are more tiers out there that would like to get in on this fun and easy pattern. John

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I need some motivation, please sign me up, great fly
Eric

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You’re in. PM sent.

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Last day for sign up. If no one else signs up, we can still send 1 dozen flies each, and give everyone 2 of each pattern.

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Sounds good to me. I am surprized this one has not filled up. John

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Swap is closed. Each tyer will get 2 flies of each pattern.

I just got a package in from fly tying furs, that includes red, grey and pine squirrel tails. I think I’ll like them better than the kip tails I’ve experimented with so far. BTW, fly tying furs is a sponsor here. They shipped my order out extremely fast, and their product seems to be a terrific value. The only “problem” was the $10 minimum order. I had to pick up some extra coyote, raccoon and muskrat tails to make the minimum. Hmmm…new swap ideas. :lol:

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OK, 2 flies per participant. Mine are Red Fox tail with black punch yarn bodies. They are in the capable hands of the USPS>
Chuck

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Sounds good. Thanks for the update.

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I will submit 2 since we only have 6 people signed up. Olive and orange chenille with raccoon (size 12), and rust punch yarn with red squirrel (size 18)