Roscoe reports this week

from another Catskill board on last weekend - I’ll put up the results from scouting there this last 3 days

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: Weekend 21-22May on Willow and BigB


PA had been ffishing so well and it’s been a lot of work up in the Catskills so I wasn’t going to ffish this last weekend in NY, until the rain dumped 1"+ down here, spiking up our water flows. Too bad this didn’t happen in the Catskills too - the watershed needs the water.
So I called a buddy from Manhattan with water on the Upper Willo and we arranged to spend the afternoon there. Having read the MB thread and since I’ve seen March Browns once in a while the last 10 days on the BigB (and since MB’s were killer on Penn’s last week for me), I started with old fashioned (or out-of-fashion?) #10 March Browns, tied in the Flick/Jennings style by me 35 yrs ago - I was on pocket water and wanted to see how the 7’6"#4 cane I was using would work with such a big fluffy fly before I hit the pools. To my surprise, 2 streambred 8" brookies and a 16" brown ate it, so I was stoked to do MB duns, emergers and spinners even though the water temp up there was very low 50?'s.
But when I came to the 1st pool and actually saw a rise, nada. There were clouds of shad flies and midges as well, but the fish weren’t moving to them there. I did get a nice 17" brown with a Quigley, then I saw caddisy slaps the next pool up.
Most of the next dozen were to various caddis - Henryvilles, Colorado Kings, CDC&“Elk. But when the sun came out and some trouts were visibly feeding but ignoring my caddisses, I saw a lot of wind drift on the water, so I got a couple on black ants and beetles.
What was key for the next day was the evening when a variety of sulfury duns and spinners began to work. I was surprised since the season has been running so slow in the NE that though I had great sulfurs down in PA, I didn’t really expect them yet in the Cats, especially so far up the Willo. Most years I expect sulfurs after the MB’s are mostly done. The last 2 hours delivered a catch rate of 4-6/hr - the browns were big and fresh enough that it took a while to land them. There was a stray rainbow in the mix too.
Sunday I spent the afternoon on everybody’s favorite pool on the BigB. I found a small pod of sippers/sniffers, and I went thru a multitude of flies and tippet trying to see if any merited a nod. As I got in the pool, in between drizzle showers I actually saw a #16 sulfur. One of the trouts ate a Quigley type (heavily modified) sulfur, but the other 4 gave it one insincere shot. I am always mystified by how they can make the fly disappear but I can’t feel a thing.
Several folks got a few on midges (I got misses on Griffiths) and tiny spinners. Then literally thousands of tiny (#22-26) BWO’s peppered the water. The weather was ideal Baetis weather, which is to say cold, drizzly. In slack areas, the flies never seemed to leave the water, and I wondered why few fish cruised the slack water to slurp them up (maybe too many humans around?).
There were a few MB’s, and even 1 Gray Fox (if you consider that a different species). Also the occasional Yellow Sally, but strangely hardly any caddis - not till later. I was using 6X and wasn’t willing to go down to serious midging because of the size of the trouts I could see rising here and there.
Running a big cripple (thinking MB still) over a bubble stream in deeper water got some of the holdovers, including a bow - these didn’t take me into backing, but if the water flow was more like 500 instead of 200, they would have.
The haze and overcast and drizzle made for somewhat constant activity, but only in spots at a time. The action was best at dusk. Recalling Saturday’s experience in colder waters with sulfurs, I pulled some out. Sulfurs worked in the faster water, but the most consistent for me was midges and small rusty spinners (saw some Para spinners in the backwaters), using easterncaster’s trick, which is to drift the invisible flies, quartering downstream into the glare. Kind of like Henry’s Fork.
I was using a plastic tube rod, so I didn’t hold a number of trouts, but they kept me fairly busy. Only landed a dozen in the end, using up about 2 yards of tippet from the fly changes (but no breakoffs, for a change).
The holdover browns are gorgeous colors, with red adiposes and buttery bellies, and tones of pink and lavender as they roll in the water. The ones over 14” make you pay attention to line tangles and wind knots. Cold, but worth it, I guess.
The floods certainly changed some pools, and maybe the bugs were somewhat diminished. I can’t tell if the overall trouts population was reduced - the activity on the surface all year (3 multi-day sessions) is much less than usual, even with the low water now and cold air/water. For what it’s worth, Mary Darbee told me they were stocking Monday (yesterday). This may mess things up for a day or 2, but we will see how things are later this week.

tl
les

PS - for those upset about out-of-towners - ffishing in the same pool with me were other Keystoners, a Texan and 2 from Cali - they were having a great time with their pilgrimage. Some of them even hung a couple trouts and others (that’s payback for nymphing).

Wednesday 25May till Fri on Beaverkill and Delaware branches

Went back up Wednesday - very cold air and water and drizzle (50?'s), but the hatchery trucks really loaded up the upper Big Beaverkill pools. Flies were sulfurs of various sizes, some March Browns and a few caddisses. Also Yellow and Lime Sallies.
It was interesting to get 20 of the recent stockies in a few hours on various sulphur emergers and the occasional MB. I got to try out a bunch of new and old patterns to see what worked best, since I had been having a variety of responses on various NY and PA streams this last week. But the bigger holdovers seemed to be sulking in the deep water as they adjusted to the newcomers.
However, in the major pools, there was more bug activity than during the weekend and some of the big and small fish were looking up for a change. Again, there were tons of #22 BWO’s, and the dampness kept them on the water. I used little rusty spinners successfully on the sippers, as well as midges. Somehow, trying to compete with a thousand Baetis duns in a small area with yet another BWO pattern didn’t appeal to me.

Thursday was slightly warmer and I looked over the Willo (very low) and several stretches of the Delaware as well. The West Branch had activity in different areas, even early in the afternoon, but there were a lot of anglers. Hendrickson spinners and risers were in Deposit, but most of the rest of the rivers were March Browns (still), various sulfurs and a few caddis and Gray Fox. One notable rainbow finished off one of my 5 weight lines and although only 17", fought much harder than the 4 lb’er I got in PA earlier in the week. My buddy ffishing the same pool got a 21" on an emerging sulfur (I used a Catskill MB in fast water) - his was a giant for the EB.

Today I had to run to the airport, but inspected Cairn’s from the road at 11:00. The sun was out and the air was trending into the 70?'s, which is the 1st seasonable day in the last 3 weeks. A few MB’s were here and there and there was active rising to those.

Some pools on the D are due for a major MB spinner fall, since those guys have been coming off for days now and the evenings may have been too cool for them to return to oviposit. Possibly the big fall happened this evening, but I wasn’t there. If not, this weekend might be the time.

No Green Drakes yet - in many ways the season is running a bit late. However there were Isonychia in the lower parts of the Delaware and branches.

If we get more rain, it may be uncomfortable but the ffishing should continue to pick up. I did see a lot more trouts on point and even looking up than before, so they are thinking of eating buggies. The new round of stockies is changing the dynamics of those hunting the bigger holdovers, but in general I am seeing other anglers getting trouts, whereas before I wasn’t seeing too many tight lines.

See you folks this week. Looking forward to the festivities.

tl
les

les, you should have your own tv show, with your knowledge, alot of folks would tune in, see ya at Roscoe…

Grubb, and son Josh…


Spelling and Grammar not subject to judgement… :wink:

Les…when you gonna be in Roscoe for the Fish In?


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les -

Great reports. Thanks. Maybe I’ve been tying the right flies to use after all. If not, we may all be burning the midnight oil at the evening tying sessions.

See ya in Roscoe.

Allan