Polaris /Ice Dub/ Angelina/Arizona

Hello,
Got the Polaris Nuclee-R fibers today. Beautiful colors…
Made one or two quick flies ,they are very nice looking, but the fibers are pretty stiff and easily broken. Not much movement in the tail or the wing. When taken by a fish, I’m afraid the fly will be damaged by the teeth.
Are the Angelina fibers the same, easily broken when you pull on them? I took fibers from a Fritz chenille and they don’t brake.

Hello,
Here are 2 pictures of polaris fibers., general picture and a close up showing how the fibers are cut.

Duckterman: could you please, take a few Angelina fibers and pull on them, do they break? and how easy it is?
Thanks

pechetruite…just did and yes it did break relatively easy I think…it was from an "Angelina Straight Cut “Hot Fix Sampler” pack I happen to have…

Just checked some Arizona Diamond Hair…and it does too…as I said before I think this Arizona stuff seems identical to the Angelina we are talking about…[as KBarton points out there are actually many types]

I know many folks tie streamers with the Arizona…and KB with the Angelina…

I might add I’ve not seen any Angelina with serrated/sawtooth edges like your photos show…on the Polaris

Here is one of my patterns with Polaris N.E.W. fibers. The N.E.W. Shad.

The N.E.W Bluegill

I doubt if the Anglelina fibers are the same as Polaris. The Polaris N.E.W. fibers are meant to be ‘cooked’ upon completion of the fly with a heat gun on low heat. This cause 2 things to happen. The fibers shrink into a fish shape, and they begin to flouresce in many colors, some that only fish can see, in the ultaviolet and infared range.

The Polaris flies have proved to be deadly on all species, every time I have used them. I know of no other material like this. I think it will revolutionize fly-tying for the 21st century.

The guy at Polaris is straight-up. It may take a bit of time to get your material, but it’s definitely worth the wait!

Hello,
Gigsmaster: looking at your pictures, I think the fibers have not the serrated edges like the ones I received (see pictures on my previous post). Could you confirm that?
These types of cut (serrated) could explain why the fibers break easily.
I confirm , after cooking with the heat gun, it makes beautiful flies. I cannot wait for the fishing season to open to try them on the local brown.

Polaris makes 3 or 4 different types of material. I use the Nuclear Emission Wing (N.E.W.) material. It is somewhat straight. They also make Polaris Hair, which is very fine, .05" thick, or so they say, and Pearl Curl, which is kinky (serrated?). I suspect you have Pearl Curl. I use N.E.W. for my minnows.

I plan to experiment with their other materials. I have made several killer Mayfly patterns with Polaris Hair, and the E.M.T. winging material.

This stuff is all great!

Hello,
I ordered the NEW FLY TYING MATERIALS, the 20 bags for $37,50, on the bag, it is identified as : N.E.W Flies Nuclee-r Emission Wing. Unless there is a mislabelling, it is not Pearl Curl.
May be Polaris changed their cutting process, I’ll ask him the question.

I’d just like to add some rationality to this discussion. Synthetic materials are manufactured in very large quantities, especially textiles like these fibres. Even Wapsi has some trouble with yarn (before they dye it) because of the huge minimum lot size if they buy direct from the mill.

So I doubt that this one man operation in Alaska researched/developed the fibres and then contracted the manufacturing. More than likely, and I credit his creative and entrepreneurial spirit, he came across these fibres in an existing non-fly tying product and is sourcing them from an end of the chain distributor.

This is one step beyond what Frank Sawyer did with the Chadwick’s 477 yarn for his Killer Bug. Frank should have bulk sourced the yarn and and repackaged it! :wink:

In any event, I love getting stuff cheap so please continue on with this investigation of the supply chain.

Here is a picture of one of my colors of N.E.W. It looks straight to me, but I could be wrong.

Here are a few individual strands for detail

Here is the label.

I just bought this about a month ago. What ever it is, I am hooked on it. There is no other material that I am aware of that can do the things this stuff does.

Hope this helps.

Here are two that I just now tied. It took me maybe 3 minutes per fly, and most of that time was coloring in the gills and putting on the eyes.

Crappie Minnow tied on a #10 curved nympth hook.

Chartruese Crappie Minnow on the same size hook.

I know they work because I’ve already been using them. They out fish live minnows. I weight the hook with a few wraps of lead wire.

Hello,
Here are pictures of the very same product and a close up showing the serrated edges. on your pictures it look serrated but it could be a pixel effect.
OK, let the matter to rest and as you said, I’ll test flies on trout and they’ll decide if they like it or not!! Thanks for your replies.

I wonder if the little serrations are what helps it hold its shape after you cook it?

Thanks! You just confirmed that its Crystalina:

btw, I think Meadowbrook Inventions already has a patent on this :wink: