Our Dogs

The recent bout of people losing dogs and/or getting new dogs like we did this last year has made me stop and think a bit about our canine companions.

Our first dog was a big hairy lovable and loving lap dog that thought she was just one of the ‘people’ in the house, and when people came to visit, they were there to see her as much as they were to see us. She would lie down in the same room as us and rest whenever we were busy, but as soonas you asked if she wanted to go, or broke out the leash, fishing gear, stroller or anything else that might mean an adventure (fly rod included) she was right there excited and ready to go. Well, we thought we would never get another dog that was similar, but our 7-month old lab is turning out to have a very similar personality. Will climb on the couch, lay her head on the arm or pillow closest to us and quickly begin to snore very loudly, but ready to go at a moments notice.

So, do we, as owners/trainers/friends ‘make’ our dogs become what we need/want, or do we just seem to end up with the dog we need at that time? Does this just happen to my family?

Don

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Dear Don,

I have to say that I am a very lucky dog owner. Both my yellow lab that I lost a few months ago and my current dog were given to me.

I am just a dog person. Any dog would do me just fine though I prefer larger dogs because I’m a big galoot.

I live alone except for my dog so it’s easy for me to fit the dog into my lifestyle. I couldn’t imagine life without a four legger around. Even when they are bad they good!

Regards,
Tim Murphy

I’m not sure how it works, but having had three dogs (2 mutts and one purebred)we have not had a bad fit. All 3 were chosen as pups, with the whole family in on the choice. After looking over the available litter, playing with all of them, and getting a feel for the parents, we just always seemed to know which one was the dog for us. We have visited the local humane society kennel as well as private owners when we have been looking, and there were times that we left knowing that none of the dogs there were right for us. I don’t know what it is, but the feeling has always been right. That’s how it is from our side of the picture.
From the dog’s side of it, I think that they are all a lot smarter than we give them credit for. They know good people from bad; they know who is a dog lover and who isn’t; and they know a good home when they have one. When they are loved and accepted as a part of the family, they will do everything they can to make everything work out for everyone involved.
CJ

Life without dogs would be a life half lived. Honestly - they just mean so much to me and my family. I have owned some purebred bird dogs, mutts, and beagles, and everyone of them has taught me something and brought much joy. A dog keeps ones heart from hardening, in spite of the horrors of the world and its often constant stream of bad and dissapointing news… thank goodness for our four-legged pals.
For those of you who are not familiar with it, you really should read Corey Fords great story “The Road to Tinkhamtown”. It is my absolute favorite sporting story ever, and it beautifully illustrates the important role our dogs play in our lives. Cheers, and give 'em all a pat for me… Alec

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Belle, my American Water Spaniel

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Pickles, my mongrel pal

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I realize I am opening myself up for major league scorn here but so be it. I’m an honest man.

If you offered me a dog that peed champane and pooped gold nuggets I would politely decline. Can’t stand the darn things. Same goes for cats.

Though I don’t begrudge anyone their love of canines. Sometimes I feel like my mom cared for her dogs more than she did me.

eponymous,

No scorn from this corner. Just sorrow. You will never experience that undefineable something that dog lovers do. We call it love or joy or friendship or ???. We can’t explain it and sometimes it hurts, but we wouldn’t give it up. I truly hope there is something else in your life that takes it’s place.

Dear eponymous,

No scorn from me either.

I don’t like opera, fine wine, soccer, or cats. It’s a big old goofy world and there is room for all of us.

Regards,
Tim Murphy

Don,
Dinah has us pretty well trained to the same standards, as did all of our previous “trainers”. We sit at our own end of the couch and she beats us to the door. She makes all my runs with me in the truck, so she has a lot of time to train us. Sit and come are the two “essential” commands. All else seems pretty much voluntary and personality motivated and implimented.
Here’s Dinah on the couch, with her toy, waiting for her lazer light.
…lee s.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“1” face=“Verdana”>quote:</font><HR>If you offered me a dog that peed champane and pooped gold nuggets I would politely decline. Can’t stand the darn things. Same goes for cats.

Though I don’t begrudge anyone their love of canines. Sometimes I feel like my mom cared for her dogs more than she did me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow that’s a pretty revealing post.

Have fun
Paul

Dieter:

Didn’t mean it that way. It was my daddy who didn’t love me. (kidding) My Mom took good care of me. Never missed one of my soccer games until I turned pro and played away from home. (Tim - despite this I hate soccer too.)

bluehackle:

My wife and my 3 boys keep a plenty big chunk of my softer side. I also enjoy time in the garden. Another reason I can’t stand those damn four legged crap factories.

I have had a few dogs and though I tried I never could make my siberian husky be the lab I wanted. I have a great lab now, and I know she’s the best dog I’ll ever own, which makes me happy and sad in a way. When I’m fishing I can look back and know that she’s just out of my backcast watching with interest and maybe coming over to see what I’ve landed. She’ll only get in the water if I throw something for her which makes for entertainment when the fishing sucks. She’s never broken a rod in the boat and only barks if someone is coming up behind us. I’m hoping to clone her several times to make an unholy army of sweet black labs, if cloning were just a little cheaper…

Been married for 32 years - to the same, wonderful woman. (That’s why we’re still married). Started off with Muffet, a poodle-terrier, who-knows-what-else-breed dog we got free even before our wedding. One year later we got a cat. (My dad hated cats, and I inherited that feeling until my sister brought home a cat in 1969 that was discovered in her college dorm and the cat had to be evicted). I thought, oh man,a stupid cat. But I was not going to abuse it. Before long this guy, a male, had completely wormed his way into all our hearts and lives. He got sick, and I cried with my sister at the vet’s office over this “stupid” darn cat when we had to have him put down in 1972.
My wife and I got Brindle in 1974, a German Short-haired Pointer. Great hunter and pet. Her & Muffet were buddies, but with one year’s seniority the little terrier mix at 20 pounds dominated this 65 pound female GSP. Had Brindle for ten years until she died of a heart attack I guess. A few lears later we lost Muffet.Then we got Samantha, another GSP. She pulled her stake and got hit by a car at 1 yr. old. Later on we got Molly, a Black Cocker-Border Collie mix that was slated to be drowned unless the “owners” could find a home for her.
That brings up another point, people should not breed pets unless they have a better plan than drowning the litter.
When Molly died in May of 1999, I was away from home for two days of guiding. Got home at midnight to find out she died the day before. Fortunately my father-in-law buried her on our property. (All our deceased pets are located in the fields near our home).
So intense was my grief over Molly that my wife and I agreed 'no more dogs." Even four years later, all it would take was for me to see a picture of her and I would begin to get emotional. It would even happen to me while talking to others who had lost dogs. As I recalled Molly, I always told how the first two years we owned her I could have killed her many times over. She could be such a bad dog! Once she settled down, she became “my” dog and we were almost inseparable.
Long story short, my wife surprised me on my 50th birthday celebration with a black-and-tan Cocker Spaniel pup whom was named Abigail. Not previously named by others, that’s the divine part of this. Within minutes after this eight-week old pup was placed on my lap as I had to keep my eyes closed, my cousin said, “Now you’ll have to come up with a name for her.” In a flash I had a thought, but did not actually think it. It was as if I already knew this information. Not saying it out loud, the answer rang loudly in my mind. “Her name is Abigail.”
A couple hours later when everyone went home from the birthday party, I asked my wife, “What do you think of the name Abigail.”
She was awe struck. “That was her mother’s name!” my wife declared. Considering the many things going on at that time in my life, there’s far more here than meets the eye.

Finally - I love dogs & cats like I love people. I don’t particularly care for the ones that misbehave in a huge way. No person or pet is perfect. But an uncontrollable dog that jumps up on your clothes, drools on your pants, won’t stay down from the kitchen counter, claws up the screen door, etc. You understand what I mean. People can be much worse. Just look at today’s headlines.
People who have never experienced the bond of love with a dog have no understanding of the tremendous depth of grief we feel upon their loss. This is a very unique and lonely type of loss that can only be shared and comforted by those who have gone through it. It is lonely because the loss of a pet usually does not gain the support of friends and family as does the passing of one of your friends or relatives. At least then, it seems that others care.

Eponymous - As for me, not having another dog might avoid the eventual grief upon their loss, but if you offered me an unlimited supply of gold nuggets, champagne, or even a million dollars I would not yield my beloved Abigail in the trade. With all due respect I kindly suggest your personal preference not to own a dog or cat could have been made public in a manner slightly less insulting to those of us who dearly love our pets.

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Edited as an add-on:
The dogs that I referred to as “not liking” would actually be those dogs that I do not actually dislike, but rather would like better were they better “behaved.” A dog that does not come whan called, stay down when told, or better yet, stay down without being told - they just need a bit more training and stricter discipline. They are like our children - if we give in they will totally run and dominate our lives. Who knows how they’ll turn out unless we demand the best they are capable of? This is acomplished through love and firmness, not punishment and meanness.

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Great read Don, as are most of them.
This is not a slam at eponymous. It is an observation…maybe. It does seem to me that people who are NOT animal people, do tend to be much more interested in ONLY themselves and THEIR likes and dislikes. We all need some of this. I think it comes under “survival in the masses.”
Animal people just seem better at being conscious of other’s needs and desires ALONG with their own. They seem more interesting, more beneficial and more tolerable socially.
There are two ends to most sticks, though.
Another observation…Don would not like Dinah. Welll, maybe not dislike, but he would need to remind her strongly of her “voluntary” commands and behaviors.
…lee s.

Don:

Sorry. Didn’t mean to offend. Not my intention - as stated I don’t begrudge anyone their love of animals. Sorry you took it that way. I’m more than a bit sarchastic on occasion. Much more so on FAOL posts than in my everyday life.

Lee:

Sorry that you don’t seem to like me. You might if you got to know me. I find your post a bit hypocritical. Seems like you’re not very conscious of my dislikes despite being a dog person. Tisk tisk.

And finally drolfson: Sorry your post got hijhacked as a result of my response. Just posting an opposing viewpoint. Thought that was okay here at FAOL. Guess not.

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my dog makes a bad fishing companion. i think Gierach said the same thing.


take him fishing

Eponymous -
No offense taken or intended. But your opening remark indicated you were going to keep the flak jacket close by.

“E”,
Quotes, “This is not a slam at eponymous. It is an observation…” and “We all need some of this.” Guess I should have said, we all HAVE some of this.
You are right, I do not know you, so I have no opinion as to positive or negative attraction. And not knowing you, how is one expected to know of your likes or dislikes…other than those you have stated?
You MUST be an allright person to be a steady contributor at this forum…which IS a GRAND forum.
I sat in quandry for quite some time trying to decide whether to email this or post it. Posting it seems like adding to an already immature squabble. Email was not an option as per your profile.
Apologies to the board…
…lee s.

Here is our girl Tasha.Extremely smart.Had her trained to do her duty in the neighbor’s flower garden at 5 months

We’re all friends again as far as I’m concerned. Let’s fish…despite the pounding snow we are about to endure one more time here in NE I can sense that the time is near when the trout will return to the streams from wherever they have been all winter and the rolling boils will once again proliferate our sandy beaches and rocky shores.

e