October Caddis

Hope to see some in a few weeks:

Pretty happy with this (although it’s up to the fishies to approve), now I need to start tying dries.

Regards,
Scott

Of course, you are going to post either the recipe or a video on tying that aren’t you? Nice looking tie.

Absitively; here’s the video I got it from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDs5d1G_3Jk

A very simple tie; hope the fish like it.

Regards,
Scott

Thanks, it is always good to watch a good tyer in action. I learn some little something almost everytime. I have never heard anyone around Atlanta mention October Caddis, I don’t know if we have those or not.

Very nice tie! I have been watching Parks videos for a month or two… They have some very buggy patterns!

The October Caddis we have in California is :

[i][b]Dicosmoecus pallicornis

[/b]

Brick Back OC Variant- Morris
http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Dicosmoecus+pallicornis

NOTE:

[/i] Dave Blackburn, who runs Kootenai Angler in Libby, Montana. also swears by (October)caddis larva and pupa imitations during fall. “I like to use a big caddis pupa fished under an indicator, Blackburn said. Those pupae have a yellow body, so any large pupa with a yellow coloration will work. A lot of people tie an orange pupae because the adults have an orange coloration, but those guys don’t do as well because the pupa are actually yellow.”

Blackburn speaks the truth. If you inspect an October caddis larva or pupa out of its case, you will see an almost white bug with a black head and legs. Tie your caddis patterns accordingly. (Old Whitehead, Dave Whitlock, interjects that the genus Dicosmoecus has more than one species; over their broad geographic range the larvae vary from white through pale yellow to a reddish-brown that could be called orange.)

From: Flyfishing & Tying Journal, ppg. 42, Fall 2004

The four species and where they are found:

http://m.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Dicosmoecus

PT/TB :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s that time of year, and I keep it very simple.

Saw a half dozen or so adult October Caddis on the upper reaches of the Lochsa this afternoon. A few of them were ovipositing. There were some fish up, but I couldn’t tell if any of them were on the October Caddis . Some did take other patterns, to include the FEB Hopper, a large CDC and Deer, and a ClackaCaddis, tied last year by ScottP.

John

The peacock-bodied one?

Regards,
Scott

The “Bug d’jour” for the Idaho Fish In has perennially been the October Caddis. A rust colored body works well, and if they aren’t an inch to an inch and a half long, they’re too short.

I generally fish the same patterns as I do during spring/summer hatches, only a tad larger. This pic is from the upper Colorado. For size comparison, that’s a lb propane cylinder.

The fly that works for me:

Similar look to Scott’s fly.

… with the black wing.

That fly did very well for me in one regard. Sunday, there was one cutt rising steadily for quite some time. I got good drifts of four or five different flies over him and he wouldn’t take any of them. I finally put on the ClackaCaddis and he came up and hit it but didn’t eat it.

Yesterday, fishing the same place, that fish was rising again in the same spot with the same regularity. I put on the ClackaCaddis, timed his rise, roughly, and he came up on the first pass and ate the fly. Good sized cutt and very strong. Unfortunately, I gave him a little too much respect, and too much line, and he threw the hook at the end of his run.

Getting back to October Caddis - it’s never occcured to me to fish an OC nymph pattern because the water that I’ve fished that has OC’s also has lots of golden stones and hoppers so I fish those dry flies in the months before the OC hatch and then switch to an OC dry.

John

John,

It’s all about the take, anyway (at least that’s what I keep telling myself); glad to hear the fish like it. As for the October Caddis, I’d much rather fish on top and will tie up some foam creations, but for some of the water I’m planning on fishing I’ve heard the pupa are more effective so I’ll tie up stuff for under the waves as well.

Chewydog,

Love that fly; anything with a biot body is okay by me. Thanks for the pics and suggestions.

Regards,
Scott

Here it is on a Dai Riki 280; changed the dubbing up a bit (will also do some in yellow per planettrout’s suggestion) and added a slip of turkey tail over the back:

Here’s a dry version I’m playing around with, based on the Moorish October Caddis http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-714128359380966456 ; first attempt so proportions aren’t quite right

Regards,
Scott

There are a bunch of truly beautiful flies posted to this thread. Thanks!

Ed

Judging from the print on the side of the cylinder and the size of the gas line, it would appear the insect is over an inch long. Is that correct?

I tie this with Honey bug material…

Check out John Gantner’s patterns here:

http://www.flytyer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2976&Itemid=90

He knows a thing or two about these bugs…

Most of the pupa I have seen, in the Eastern Sierras, are just about this shade:

I am hoping to tie up some pupa based on this design, in the appropriate colors and sizes in the next few days, on TMC 2302 or Daiichi 1270 hooks…

Greg Vinci’s X-Ray Caddis [b]Pupa /b

PT/TB :wink:

… the Crooked Fork Creek October Caddis from last fall. The fishies haven’t. At least not this one this afternoon on the Lochsa.

And don’t forget the “worm.” When I started fishing today, it was cold and raining. The fishies wouldn’t come up for a dry. So I dropped a pink San Juan worm off the CFC OC and caught a cutt that was pushing 18". That made up for the weather, kind of.

John

Pumpkin Uni-stretch for thread is probably a bit thick; I’ll have to see if I have something in 6/0 or flat-waxed nylon

Regards,
Scott