Ok guys and gals I need some help. Over the last few weeks I have developed a new fly but my digital camera is broken…I want to give the description and let anyone who can (or is willing) post pics of the fly.
Background: Looking for an advantage to salmon/steelhead fishing I drew from my fishing experience with Berkley’s gulp baits and decided to incorproate “sent” and “flavor” into my flies.
The egg sucking bugger is tied in the following mannor.
Tail: Marabou (black or olive)
Hackle: Classic Old English Game (or plain bugger hackle)
Body: Ice dubbin in black or olive
Tie in marabou tail, tie in hackle tip for palmering, dub body with ice dubbing. Dub body to 2/3 rds. hook length, palmer hackle and tie off. Lay down two or three cotes of thread on front 1/3 rd of hook and finish with head cement. Now the fly should look like an egg sucking bugger without the egg.
Next take a Gulp salmon eggs, make a hole in it with a tooth pick and place it on the front of the fly…
Now you have an egg sucking bugger with sent and taste! I have not used this pattern yet (just made it a couple of days ago) but it should catch salmon, steelhead, and trout for you!
If you like this pattern and can post some pics of the tied fly that would be awsome!
Mark,
Just an idea! How bout’ if you tie in a piece of wire in the first 3rd (thread by eye) of the hook with the wire pointing backwards. That way the wire stem might hold the egg on better, like a barb.
Doug
Scientist,
Not that I have EVER used corn for bait, but White Corn is preferable to Yellow since Fish can’t digest Yellow.
Also the reason your getting flack is “Bait” is VERBOTEN! around here! :lol:
That’s a very nice salmon !
Doug
Scientist, what ever floats your boat. Welcome to FAOL its a great site for fly fishing. Bait gets some peoples dander up but it also gets the fish off the bottom. :lol:
Scientist,
There GOES your ‘Normal’ Welcome to the BB!!! :lol: Were starting our own FAOL Intervention GROUP!!!
If you don’t want to be one of our victims, pretend like you KNOW NOTHING about that other world!!
Doug
Since spawning salmon aren’t eating, why have the scent and taste?
Although egg sucking leech patterns are great, why not use chenille? Shell Shock Pink, Kilowatt Red, etc., are great colors to use for egg, AND you don’t have to worry about putting them back in your fly wallet or box after you use them.
What other colors have any other tiers used for the egg head?
Just a heads up DianeID . . .
While it is true that that Salmon in a river system are not feeding per say they absolutely will EAT bait. While I’m a fly guy for the most part I also have to entertain customers from time to time that do not fly fish and break out the spinning gear. Salmon will absolutely crush, eat and swallow properly cured salmon skein presented to them in the rivers. In fact they love it to the point that some days it just dosen’t seem fair : )
They will of course strike at flies, lures and bait out of instinct and aggression in the rivers as well.
Thanks, Jeff, I know that spawning salmon will bite at things, but I was getting at the point–as you stated–that they’re not eating. A fish biologist was explaining the other month about the swallowing reflex on fish, ie bait vs artificial fly, etc., and it was quite fascinating. You’re right, they will swallow. Their little brain only does so much at once :lol: He gave a great talk about the hunger/searching vs biting/instinct reflexes of salmon, trout, bass, etc.
I was thinking that the last thing I’d want in my fly box is an artificial/cured scent, especially over a period of time. Fortunately, I’m not in your line where I have to entertain customers. I’ve talked to guides, and their stories of customers can range from pleasant trips to acting more like psychologists than fishermen. Good luck to you.
In my area, here in Washington state during ‘Chum Salmon’ season, one of the very best methods is to drift weightless, a six inch strip of, or a small whole, herring at least a hundred feet behind a small boat on spinning gear. The bait will stay quite close to the surface and be ‘eaten’ readily by the salmon. A large herring colored fly does not seem to be well received however.
