I am totally disgusted by members of my generation that think a case of beer and 30 fish days nymphing are the only way to fish. I am finding more and more 20-30 somethings that are rude, inconsiderate, and not conservationists. What is the fun in getting pissed and fishing?
I have nothing against Nymph fishing, I just have trouble with meat heads. Now I know why I liked hanging out with my father and his friends when he was still alive.
Split families? Insecurity? Desperate for friends? pre-disposed to addiction? Bad parenting? Chronic follower?
Let someone else be in charge of your Life! That way you don’t have to think!
Doug 
I guess you would carry your disgust to Cleveland, Ohio if you ever watched the meat fishermen chasing steelhead in our area. You could become further enraged to read about their exploits and view the pictures on one of their popular websites. They are the biggest reason I only fish for steelhead a couple of times each year. These kids are legends in their own minds…just ask them. :shock:
Joe
Joe, I think you hit it right on the head with the legend in their own minds quip. It does seem to be all about me. me . me. me. me. me.
How can I get it through their heads that it is not about them, but me? :lol:
The older I get, I am not that old, the more I want to make a positive impact and the fact that others haven’t changed that way as well confunds me.
I am beginning to think my father was right when he told me to go into environmental improvement as a job, it is were my heart lies.
NF,
Being a part of the same generation I agree with you. You know, when I was younger I looked up to guys that were this age because they seemed to be so much more mature and responsible. Now, I realize how wrong I was. I know more guys who are legends in their minds at this age than I ever thought I would.
If they stuck to just screwing their own lives then that would be fine with me. But when they pollute their surroundings along with their bodies, not only is it just sickening, but extremely disrepectful. Reminds me of my one year old son to a point. He makes a mess with everything he touches too. The difference is that when he does it, its cute. I suppose the mental capacity is about the same though…
NF: You start out by saying you are totally disgusted by members of your generation, but you don’t say what your generation is nor does your profile. I kinda agree with Doug. If a person, business or whatever kind of entity conducts themselve in accordance with the law, your beef should not be against them, but against the law itself.
Have a good day
Tim
This is something that disgusts you but I assure you! it’s been around for a LONG time! There have always been meat collectors (rite of passage for manhood?) and there have always been Drunks! So what’s the big surprise that they finally found each other?
Sure it would be more pleasant if the Drunks would do it in the privacy of their home and NOT their automobiles! :shock: , but it’s like LITTER, You have to Deal with it!.
Behavior is taught by following the example of Parents, then who your friends? are.
Imagine being locked up with a Loser in a office at work for the rest of your life!
I believe that once you achieve adulthood, YOU are supposedly in charge of YOURSELF!
You see, it doesn’t matter how good a paying job you have, your MORALE is a important part of your work life.
There will always be jerks on the road, in your family and jerks at work but it helps to have principles, morals and NOT be a People Pleaser! Take care of your OWN life and let the chips fall where they may.
Doug 
It’s sad, but it’s all they have to look forward to. Unfortunately they leave a bad image of the sport.
You can either ignore them, or change them. And one way to change them is to hit their wallets. If you know that a guy drinks all day on the water and drives home, give the local police a tip. If they litter every time they go out, a little video tape goes a long way. Around here there is a $500 fine for each piece of litter. A case of beer could get really expensive.
Just an idea.
PanMan, What generation?
Generation X is what they tell me my generation label is.
But my father and uncles fought in WWII, so my friends dads were as old as my older brother.
I kind of relate to that song by Burl Ives my dad listened to, “Mr. IN BETWEEN”…
Guess I should finally get a cell phone if I want to make a difference, either that or go back to school and take three more biology classes and become a member of the Fish and Game.
NderdaFilm,
Don’t ever lose your Passion! Your a individual who cares about things others don’t care about. That’s the way I am. I felt insecure about it for many yrs. Not being in the Party Crowd, being a outsider, being a flyfisher! :lol: Your a special person! I have learned to spend a whole lot less time worring about what the jerks are doing, and a LOT more time changing myself for the better!
Be PRO-ACTIVE! Use your time NOT plotting against the bad guys, but come up with some imaginitive ways of cleaning up your surroundings. Join a Club, tag along with a Group that does stream restoration.
Keep being disgusted, but use your time wisely!
Doug
NF
Along the same lines as someone else said, jerks have been around since the dawn of time and drunks came along soon after. Not all jerks are drunks, but most drunks are jerks.
I don’t think it’s the number of fish caught that is bothering you (putting words in your mouth I know) but the attitude and lack of respect shown by the drunken sots out on the water that is the problem. If that is what you were stating, I am in violent agreement with you.
There’s also something going on in society (and in your 20-35 age group) that makes every activity an extreme sport. It’s like driving to work in a NASCAR event and every fishing trip is a BASS Pro tournement. I have some personal theories, but nothing that even resembles data therefore I’ll withold comment on a public forum.
I see so many young people talking about the number of miles they hiked and not the beauty they saw while hiking, the number of fish caught and not the enjoyment of fishing, the size of the rapids counqured and not the thrill of being on the water, how fast their motorcycle will go, how much NOx they pump into their car engines, how many sub woofers they have vs the quality of the music they’re listening to. It seems your generation has a real problem with conquest and extreme competition. Many are just not satisfied. "If I went down a class 5 rapids and lived, tomorrow, I’m going to do it blindfolded, If I caught 30 fish, tomorrow, “I’m going to catch 50, if my Bike will go 150mph, I’m changing the exhaust and intakes so it will go 155.” I think it’s kind of sad really.
As someone in the generation right ahead of you (I’m 46) I find it sad as your peers will never be satisfied and always searching for something.
Peace is in your faith, and the challenge is not in the catching, but in the fishing. The thrill is not in the size of the rapids, the real thrill is being alive to enjoy their beauty.
OK, off the soap box now.
Jeff
Well said, Jeff.
Joe
Very refreshing!!
Consequences to being or getting Drunk!
www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/20/bea … pstoryview
Anyhow! If you like to get smashed, DON’T do it at the ZOO!
Doug
That was just pathetic! :o
I just do not understand some people. These are not “Teddy Bears”.
They sure don’t have them at the Build a Bear workshop!! :shock: :o :lol:
This is quite a thread…and some very well thoughtout and parlayed messages by a good many posters…Especially the thought’s of Doug and Jeff…Both very well spoken idea’s and objectives…Thanks for a good read!
On that driving fast type deally…that one kinda puts me in the “Meathead” catagory…Not so much now…but in recent times it fit me well…Never tried to make my car go faster…Just used what it had to offer way to much…
I am finding myself at across roads these day’s and working at my own betterment in that reguard.