When fishing streamers it is suggested that we use loop knots to provide more action. And several novel knots are proposed. My question is , “What is wrong with the old Bowline knot that we all learned as Boy Scouts?”
The non-slip mono loop (http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/non-slip-loop-knot/) is really just a variation on the bowline with a few extra turns to make sure it doesn’t slip.
thanks redietz. I’ve never had a bowline slip so I guess I’ll just stick with it.
I remember the Bowline from my sailing days. It’s a great knot because it never slips, but it also never tightens, so you could always untie it when you were finished. I never thought of using it on mono before, but the couple I just tied in 6x seem secure. I’m not sure I’d trust it in larger tippet sizes…have to try it with some 8# flouro and see what happens.
Cliff
There are variations of that loop knot and I’ve come up with my own version. To me simple is best, especially when tying on another streamer mid-stream. What I do is make the simple over-hand loop, run the tag end through the hook eye, then wrap the tag end around the line above the simple loop once, and then through the simple loop making sure you run it in the correct direction (don’t want to undo the simple loop!), pinch together where you want the knot to be and snug it closed. I’ve caught some pretty big fish with this method and it’s never failed.
A bowline knot is about 60% to 66% knot strength. There are a number of loop knots that are stronger, including the non slip loop. The non slip loop is more than just a bowline with extra turns. In the bowline you just form a loop to start the knot, in the non slip loop, you start with an overhand knot.
Yes, that’s one of the extra turns. I’m not advocating that anyone use a bowline as a knot in mono, but if you know how to tie it, you pretty much know how to tie the non-slip mono loop.
I have used jigs for walleye fishing and bass fishing, streamers on fly rods. The loop knot I’ve used for years is the simple Uni-Knot. I would tie this, slide it to the point I wanted the loop, then draw it tight. I have fought some very large fish over the years with this knot and never had it fail. Rarely, very rarely, it can slip down to the eye of the hook. Almost never happens and when it does you should retie because it’s burnt the line a bit. Again, that ALMOST never happens if you snugged the loop down good.
Hard to find any knot easier to tie with cold wet fingers and so reliable for me it is virtually all I use for all fishing.
About a good as you can get right here, in a non-slip, STRONG knot!
Next would be the Uni Knot - great knot -but it’s not a loop-type per the O.P.'s request.