Home from Colorado...

Spent my summer in Colorado, something I’ve done for the last several years.

Great fishing. Cool weather. Had lots of fun but it’s good to be home. Wanted to tell you all about how my experiment with a simple no reel rig went.

The animas River runs rigth through Durango, and it’s what they call in Colorado ‘Quality Water’. It has special regs and is home to lots of trout, and some nice ones. This part of the Animas is relatively fast, quite rocky, with some deeper runs here and there. I usually get to fish it mid day, so it’s mostly nymph or streamer fishing for me there.

A discussion here last spring about the Tenkara technique got me to thinking of a way to adapt this simple technique to nymph fishing on the Animas.

I began this experiment with an inexpensive 13’ telescoping panfish pole. Two furled leaders rigged end to end made up the 13’ ‘line’ (my furling jig puts out 6 1/2 foot sections). I furled 10 pound fireline for the heavier end, 4 pound mono for the light end. 6 pound flourocarbon for the tippet, about six feet of it.

I use two or three flies. On the three fly rig I used a heavy stonefly nymph at the bottom end of things and a couple of smaller nymphs staggered above that. Sometimes I used two smaller nymphs and added a heavy split shot.

I used it both with and without an indicator, depending on the conditions.

It was a very simple way to approach this river. Didn’t need a lot of stuff, kept one small fly box in my shirt pocket. A pair of hemos, some tippet, and a container of split shot was all that was required.

Caught lots of fish. As I expected, the battles were close in and often airborn. There were some negatives to the technique, though.

Bigger fish are tough to hold without being able to give them line. Hooked some larger trout that either broke me off or pulled the hooks. This generally happened before I could get the rod up. If they hit with the rod and line stretched out, as it often was when I tried to get to the maximum distance I could fish, they would be gone at the first run. If I could get the rod up and let them work against that flexible pole, I could usually land them. Didn’t lose any more of the smaller to mid sized fish than would be the case with any method.

Largest fish I managed to land was around 19 inches. Didn’t think I could hold it, but it got into a deep cut and sort of worked itself to tired swimming against the current and the flex of the rod. Probably luck more than anything, since I didn’t land any other fish over 15 inches. Caught lots of 8 to 14 inch fish.

Really fun way to fish, especially if you like simple and aren’t too concerend with landing trophies. The control over the drift and the ease of fly placement are great. You have to deal with a limited fishing distance, but I like that kind of fishing anyway. Didn’t get the flies caught in a tree or bush behind me even once.

I also tried this in the lake, for both trout and smallmouth. Caugth several trout on leech patterns with the rod. A number 6 or 4 streamer hook holds them better and I lost fewer of the bigger ones. Limited range was a problem, but it still worked okay with a simple lift and drop retrieve.

I fished both streamers and poppers for smallies with the rod. The face of the dam holds lots of bass, and you don’t need to get out far to catch them. Didn’t have any trouble landing smallmouth up to 12 inches, and if you have them congregated like that you can catch lots of them.

I’ll probably upgrade to a bit longer and better quality (read lighter) rod this spring. A 15 foot rod would make a difference, and something lighter would be easier to fish with over time. It will still need to be a pole made for panfish, though. Those Tenkara built rods are nice and light, but I think this technique would overpower them. They do make some better quality telescoping poles, though, so I’ll likely try one of them next summer.

I’m still playing with the concept, there are some changes I’ll make and I have some new ideas that I’ll try next season.

If you like simple though, and have the right kind of water, this is loads of fun.

Nice to be back here.

Buddy

Buddy, welcome back. Sounds like you had a great time and did some fun experimenting. Thanks for the report and info.

Kelly.

… I did a lot of fishing with a Tenkara rod. Follow the link for reports on my experience with Tenkara and a lot of discussion from some very experienced Tenkara fly anglers.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?37309-Tenkara

I landed a number of fish up to 17" with the Tenkara, and lost a few, too, in some pretty good currents. While the rod you used served you well nymphing, and maybe better than a Tenkara would, the Tenkara is great for dry fly fishing, which is mostly what I was up to with it.

John

Buddy,

Please empty your PM’s box. It is full…

Thanks

Warren,

It’s empty now.

Thanks,

Buddy

And after all THAT, you LEFT???. There may be “no place like home” except COLORADO. and WYOMING.

Mark

Marco,

Had to come home. Campground had closed and I have a show that sets up in Tucson next Friday…besides, it will start getting real cold in Durango soon…was 33 degrees when I left the canpground at 0300 Wednesday morning…I don’t do snow and ice fishing is difficult with a fly rod.

It will be May again faster than I’ll believe, and I can then go back.

Buddy

Wish we were going to get to our 'new" winter home in Tucson before your show, but we won’t show up until the 1st of Nov. Let me know if you have anything else locally after that please? Welcome back.
LF

Buddy, are you going to be in I.F. this next spring? It’ll be good to see you again.

Kelly.

A side note that is a bit off-topic, but it relates to this thread…I know John Scott posted to this thread regarding his Tenkara fishing in response to Buddy’s summertime experiences. Now the post is gone…what’s up?

kelly.

LadyFisher,

Unless you are into snakes and lizards and such, you might not like my first show this season. It’s the Tucson Reptile and Amphibian Show. I do quite well there, probably because the average ‘customer’ here is a 10 to 14 year old boy and they can’t drive. The people that bring them like my stuff.

I live in Tucson, and I’ll be at a show someplace in the area just about every weekend until I leave in May…I’d love to finally meet you. You are going to love it here, Tucson is a great place to spend the winter. The first show that I have after you get here is the Big Brothers Big Sisters benefit show. Really nice art show and well worth seeing if you like arts and crafts. I’ll dig up the details and send them to you.

Kelley,

I’m lost. What is “I.F.”? Idaho Falls maybe? If it’s out of Arizona or Colorado, I don’t get there, though some day I’d like to get to that area, at least to fish a bit…

Buddy.

Actually Trav is a trained naturalist among his other achievements, so we dig snakes and reptiles as well. Anyway, send whatever info you have, we’ll find you S
Hugs,
LF

Buddy,

Sounds like you had a great summer. I also started out my fixed lined fishing career using a crappie pole. As with you I had alot of fun and caught alot of fish.

When fishing still waters, I fish a 21’ furled line and a 9-10’ two or three step tapered leader/tippet (total lenght about 30’). IT is nice to have the extra reach. It does take a bit more concentration to cast. I don’t use such a long rig when fishing streams/rivers since I can usually get a little physically closer to the fish.

When fishing your nymphing set up, I’m not sure you need a furled line, you might be better off with single strand mono or flouro. At least from my experience, by the time you add multiple weighted nymphs, split shot, indicator, …, you have enough mass in place to effectively chuck and duck. It may come down to a question of how much mending you may need to do, being able to elevate most or all of your line should eliminate the need to do too much mending. Just a thought.

I have found that actual tenkara rods are at least as tough and robust as a crappie pole. The tenkara rods tend to have a bend don’t break design philosophy. Of course if you add enough force to any rod, it’s going to fail which is why you want to make sure you have a weak link in place, i.e. a tippet. I did have a tenkara rod fail this spring. My wife and I were fishing for trout early spring. My wife got her leader/tippet tangled into a ball, so I took her tenkara rod and gave her mine. I was in the process of preparing a new leader, and had her rod under arm, line dangling in the water. As Luck would have it, for some reason I had just took the rod in hand when a steellhead grabbed the dangling fly. It too straight to the air, I instinctively lowered the rod when the fish jumped. He pulled the lilian off the end of the rod, taking my line with him. No damage to the rod other than having to epoxy on a new lilian. Had it hit a second earlier while the rod was still under my arm, I’m convinced I probably would have lost the entire rod. All in all, it was a memorable experience.

I don’t think I could personally handle a 15’ rod. It’s not so much the weight, but that’s a long lever arm to try to handle with one hand since there is no reel to act as a counter balance below your wrist. I think I’d have to experiment with some two handed spey tenkara techniques.

I do agree with you, it is a fun way to fish with plenty of room for experimentation.

tight lines,