I am getting acquainted with this idea and I am tying flies in the 16-24 grain weight class, but, I am also looking at a good Czech nymphing rod. 10’ and can’t decide between 4 or 5 weight. I know Sage and St. Croix and I think Loomis offer 10’ but I think that they are too fast for what I want (St. Croix is probably closest). I understand that they are not going to be good casting rods. More lobbing.
Anyone familiar with this style of fishing and suggestions on a rod?
St Croix 5/6 medium action would be the best bet. Fenwick also puts out a nice 5/6. What is nice is that this is an all around rod that will handle any type of fishing style; dry, wet, nymph, & streamer. I use my 5/6 Fenwick or a 5/6 Scientific Anglers for Czech Nymphing quite effectively !!!
Czech/Polish nymphing is fishing fast waters with very heavy flies (I tie 16 to 24 grams) and short sticking with leader the length of the rod. The only time fly line comes into play is if the fish runs. That is why 10’ is the length to look for. I did look at the Loon (the price and what it was made for) but was told that they are hard to get. I don’t want a fast rod, I basically want a 10’ noodle. I am going to check out the site mentioned and maybe call Loon again.
Learned it about 5 years ago from some good guys from Utah.
IMHO rod doesn’t need to be super soft…mediumish (nymph) action is fine. A true noodle rod would be almost worthless for any other type of fly fishing.
You’ll be fine with a 9.5 ft rod and be required to lever a little less stuff in the air and one is easier to find one.
Best to you.
*(Maybe) S/He who dies with the MOST USED TOYS, wins.
Why not get a great rod instead of a questionable one? Winston WT 10 foot 4 weight.
I’d be interested in hearing about your tying method for these nymphs, and maybe some photo’s? I’ve been playing with some Juri Shumakov brass tubes that weigh in at about 13 grains, may start tying some czech nymphs with them and see how that goes.
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Check out Oliver Edwards DVD on tying and fishing a Czech nymph. Small fly, lightly weighted and cast as a regular nymph is cast and fished.
Also:
Basically just a short catchy phrase for ‘short line nymphing’, but then it would be harder to sell to the public as something new.
You will want the fastest possible rod for that sort of nymphing application. Try to get the fastest possible 4 weight that you can in a 10 foot length.
I coached the US Fly Fishing Team and was taught the technique by the Polish individual that basically created the technique in the beginning. He uses a 5 weight Loomis distance. I like a rod that is slightly lighter in the 4 weight.
You want sensitivity and speed for this type of nymphing. A soft rod will substantially delay your setting speed. Plus a stiffer rod will allow for more sensitivity at the tip.
No split shot, the flies are very heavy, as I said 16 to 24 grams. I will take a picture of one and post it. They use three of these about two feet apart (we are only allowed two in my state)
This is the color for our area but there is so many variations. This one is 24 grams. It is about the size of a nickle.
she who dies with the most toy’s wins.
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Czech Nymphs require a flat wrap of weight, to keep the diameter of the nymph, as slim as possible. This calls for minimum thread wraps, and the inherent build-up, if you are using round wire weight wraps.
Round wire wraps cause the thread, to get trapped in-between the wire wraps. If you flatten the wire, by placing the wire on a very hard surface and running the rounded edge of a pliers along the wire, you end up with a flatten wire that will decrease the amount of thread wrap needed to secure the weighted wire.
I start my wire wrap 2/3 back on the hook shank, wrapping forward, to just behind the eye (leaving one eye width for the head wrap). I then reverse the wrap back 1/3 of the hook shank length, this is the thorax area.
Very true on keeping the body flat. I use the pliers on the first wrap with 0.30 lead, then smooth it out with 0.15, plus more weight, smash the sides with pliers, coat with thin layer of thread, zap-a-gap, let dry and put the ingrediants on. Allowing a little less weight before material added to get to final weight.
I have even tried putting a hammer to the lead and that works but, does get a little brittle.
she who dies with the most toy’s wins.
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Ms Goddess–
A cold October about 5 yrs ago ran into 2 guys 12 miles up the Elwha River in Washington. Don’t recall their names one guy was really really good and the other … well sometimes was ‘caught’ with spin stuff and fell in the river and we dried him out on the wood stove in the ranger cabin there. visited 2 nights with them. Snow on the trees about 300 ft higher.
One of the guys had just moved (or was about to) move to WA – Whidbey Island I think.
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