So I’ve been looking around for a camping / survival knife. The other day i got my hands on my former first option which was the gerber lmf ii, it’s a nice one but too massive and heavy so it’s just out of the question.
I got my eyes on the following:
Gerber Prodigy knife
SOG Seal Pup Elite
Cold Steel Bushcraft (bushman blade but it might be a bit too large, 7 inches, and I’m not sure if you can carry it when camping)
I saw this thread yesterday and thought of the Kabar, as a pretty basic knife they are hard to improve upon. If you are leaning toward a Swiss Army type I have a lock blade with a saw and the usually screw drivers etc., that is pretty nice, similar to this. I am convinced the Victronix brand is superior to the Wenger brand. Both are official Swiss Army knives however.
Roger that! I have the U.S. Military Pilot’s Survival version of that knife. If you are talking pure survival then a fixed blade, heavy blade, large handled knife like these is the only way to go. They do not weigh that much (your life is worth a few ounces more), they are far more easier than any folding knife to hang onto, the fixed blade will not fold up under heave use as even some locking folding blades will. The heavier blade allows you to chop down small trees, cut wire, pry and use the knife as a weapon without fear of the blade breaking. They also hold a decent edge.
I have found the folding knives to be alright in less extreme conditions. Fair weather, don’t need a fire, light duty like a day on the water. Indeed that is what I carry during the warmer small game hunting seasons. However, I have been hunting on many late season days when it is blustering, deadly cold and you have to remove your gloves to handle one of those smaller knives. They get slick in the cold, your hands can’t grip them as well and you are on your way to frost bite. No thanks! You do not have to remove your gloves to pull the larger knife from the sheath or use it.
The folding blades are fine in fair weather but in tough, rugged, foul weather they just are not a match for the military survival knife be it the full size K-Bar or the shorter Pilot’s K-Bar.
The misconception of “survival knife” has been twisted by folks watching Rambo spear a hog too many times.
The best survival knife is one that is sharp witha 4" to 6" blade, has a full tang & fits your hand like a glove (this is the one feature that is most often missed). I laugh when I see somebody with average-to-small hands carrying the Rambo special, that for them may as well be a two-handed broadsword. If you want a machete…buy a machete.
There are MANY quality full tang knives out there. It needn’t be big…you are not spearing hogs, or using it to double as a maachete. It’s a tool. There are very few spec ops folks that carry a single “do all” knife…for one reason. There are none. Most carry a knife as I just described above…AND…a multi-tool. Either a Leatherman, Swiss Champ, or like-tool. The tool needs a saw blade, a scissor blade, and a good knife blade at a minimum. A swiss champ saw will cut through a 2" sappling faster than you will hack it down with a fixed blade knife.
Remember…Survival/camp does not mean knife fight. It means a knife that comes naturally to the hand and fits the job.
My “survival” knife is a leatherman core tool which is attached to a leash on my hip. The leash is due to the lose of two others in the last three years.
This tool has served in many situations and has saved of the day not just as a survival tool in the out of doors. The best survival tool, in my opinion, is one you are familiar with and have with you.
Gee whizz I guess my instructors at the wilderness survival school and the jungle warfare school courses should have thought of this right? Not to mention all of those desert courses too. Of course they are wway ahead of you and yes we carried a form of the multi tool too. But when it comes to pure survival that K-Bar is unbeatable.
Yeah I carry a multi tool too and while it may suffice in a survival situation I ain’t betting my life on it. You can if you want but don’t expect me too.
Suffice it to say that you and I will never agree on this.
P.S. Before you actually critque the U.S. Military Pilot’s Survival Knife you need to actually look at it and read up on it’s specs. The reason I know you didn’t is because of your comment about hacking through a sapling and needing a saw blade. Also who said I won’t be using it to spear a hog, wild game or two legged monster? In a survival situation you must be as prepared as possible for any thing you must do to survive.
Nighthawk…you sure took my comments as personal? Not sure why?..wasnt directed at anybody, just giving my opinion. Your handle actually reminds me of a good friend who in a twist of events after a jump ended up with a Bianchi Nighthawk he was carrying on his gear through his thigh. It ripped through a kevlar sheath. Almost died…bad day. Thank goodness for fast medivacs
Yes, there are as many opinions of what is the best survival knife out there, as there are instructors teaching their uses. The K-Bar? I was awarded one when I left one of my units…was engraved. That is the best use of a K-bar in my opinion. I’ve bent and broken many of them over the years. They sharpen easily, chip easy, & bend like butter. I have an EK Bowie that has travelled on a hip extender with me on many real world travels…but I would never carry it on a camping or hunting trip. It falls into my hand perfectly, has a very specific purpose and is the perfect tool for the job. But in my opinion it is not a good camp/survival tool. UnLess you’re going to be fighting bear or pounding it through an ammo can wiith an e-tool in camp? LOL But in all honesty, I carried out more “survival” tasks with the original Buck Crosslock I carried dummy-chordedd to my web belt than any other.
Actually I’m very familiar with survival knives. And very familiar with the instruction styles of many of the survival courses. Yes, I remember the pilots knife they handed me in SERE school. It’s the only one I ever carried. No offense. I’m a graduate of both the navy and army SERE courses, Both the basic and advanced JEST courses (still have my Leaf Spring Bolo with water-buffalo grips), and in a past life was an extreme cold weather backcountry survival instructor. Now I’m just another veteran with an old worn beret hanging in the closet. My EK is in a shadow box along with my K-bar & my Swiss Champ I carried is on my daughters belt currently on active duty.
These days, I carry a 4" blade fixed blade knife of either Case or Buck, and it’s accompanined by a Benchmark Mini-Gryptilian or a CKRT M-16. A Leatherman pulls permanant duty in my survival kit for such occassions.
Haven’t heard anyone use the term Dummy-Cord in over 20 years. Thanks for the memory.
Carried a Buck Folding Hunter through a couple of tours in Nam and a tour in the Panama Canal Zone. That was a great knife, gutted fish, skinned a couple snakes (the other white meat), sharpened punji stakes and a host of other things. My other knife was a Gerber MarkI combat knife. Thin, double edged blade (before they added serrations to it) that wasn’t good for a whole lot. It didn’t get used much, but when it did clear the sheath, it did so with extreme prejudice and sense of purpose. Those times, I was really, really glad I had it.
Wow, so many posts!! What I failed to mention is that I just want another one, I don’t “need” it. I own a Kershaw Echo which is a little beast, a Mora 2010 which is meant for lighter tasks as well as a Mora 511.
I just wanted to see if you guys had any comments on the knives I was curious about. I don’t like Rambo knifes either tho they make you look cool.
Thanks a ton for the offer of the camping tool (pm sent), I really appreciate the good heart you fellow fly anglers have.
So…that being said, does anybody have any reviews on those knives?
Thanks much