I am upgrading my fly line for the first time, and I was wondering if a nail knot is the way to go connecting the backing to my new flyline?
I use an Albright knot & coat it with Knotsense.
Regards,
Scott
ok, I was wanting to learn that knot anyway. I saw a video on utube showing how to do it. Is the knotsense necessary? Not sure what that is.
albright knot. dry.
The knotsense is kinda like epoxy but it cures with UV light (sunlight or one of those little UV flashlights) - coats the knot so it goes through the guides easily. More important for me for saltwater because fish going into the backing is pretty common; not so much for the trout I catch.
Regards,
Scott
Surgeons knot. I never get to the backing anyway…
I use a knot called a "grimp"and finger nail polish. The knot is similiar to a nail knot…but you dont need the nail or tube to tie it.
I use two nail knots. I tie the first leaving an 8 inch tag end on the backing portion then I tie a second nail knot an inch above the first. On my saltwater lines I tie three nail knots. I have never had one nail knot fail me but if it does I wanted the additional knot(s) as a backup.
Larry —sagefisher—
for backing to flyline i use on of 2 methods. 1st is the albright, this can take a little time to tie but gives great results. the other, especially on smaller wt rods, is tie a perfection loop in the backing, then attack the flyline to the loop with the castwell knot. quick and easy when you change lines or reverse a DT.
The albright knot was successfully tied, and tested on my three year old. He put up a good fight, but I was able to wear him out. I did become “it” in the process of releasing him back to the wild.
Thanks for the help.
albright…especially if you fish salt every now and then. like others have said, coat it to help it fly through those guides easier. Plus, it’s really easy to learn (and remember).
Not that I’m lucky enough to get into my backing that much but the albright knot has never failed me.
Albright knot for me also,I don,t apply anything over it and have been into my backing alot as now that I started fising again it is primarily salmon and last year 1 grisle the rest were salmon
Kind of depends.
Some lines now have built in loops on both ends. If you end up with a fly line with a loop on the backing end, I’d use a perfection loop or a double surgeon’s loop in the end of the backing and use that for the connection.
If you don’t have a built in loop in the backing end of the fly line, try tying a perfection or double surgeon’s loop at the end of the backing and use a Castwell Knot to attach it to the fly line. Makes for a very simple, secure, and small knot connection.
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/begin/knots/castwell.php
John
on my 4wt that i will never get into the backing with i used one of those plastic line-leader connectors, the clear one piece football shaped one.
I’ve always used a nail knot and have never had it fail, even in the salt with False albacore taking 100 yards of backing.
Perfection loop in the backing and I heat welded a loop on my fly line (then lashed it with gsp and coated with knotsense) on my 7 and 8 weight. Never had one fail and I’m into my backing on those rods, a lot! Albright on the lower weight rods and works just fine. Though the backing doesn’t come out to play often on those rods
I must be wierd, I usually put a loop in the back end of my flyline, super glued and whipped and tie it to the backing with a perfection knot loop to loop. this also works if you have a looped DT fly line (loops on both ends). I usually coat the loop if I make it myself so that it slides through the guides easy. when you want to flip the line around, just flip it.
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I use a Castwell. That knot reminds me an awful lot of a sheet-bend which I learned as a kid in Scouts. The Albright is a good one, too.
Castwell Knot
Jim