I’m posting this here because of the activity in this forum. I’ll also post a like post in “Fly Tying”. Winter is fast approaching us Northerners and it’s time to get down to some serious tying (and rod building)!
What Flys Would You Tie for the FAOL Fish In on the AuSable River Next August in Grayling, MI?
What would be your “Go To” rod?
Could we have an “On Site” Fly Swap"?
You Guys & Gals are going to get so tired of hearing me HYPE this event that ya all will come just to shut me up!!
I feel more like I do now than I did when I got here!
Cactus AKA “Lucky Dog (Pirate Name)”
[This message has been edited by Jack Hise (edited 16 October 2005).]
well…its the end of august. heres my suggestions based on the photos youve sent me and my “hatch charts” (which may, or may not be accurate )
flies:
hoppers
tricos
caddis
baetis/calibaetis
red quills
ants(cinnamon and/or black)
beetles(black CDC and/or moose mane)
sizes…im not quite sure. around here i would go 16-20,22-26 for baetis and tricos, and ill accept any input from those “in the know”.
goto rod is a 3wt with a 5wt backup.
on site swap?? absolutely. in fact, i assume that is a given, seeing as how we will be tying “nightly”.
and, jack, the more you “hype” this thing…the more excited i get…
Everyone dies. Only the lucky ever truly Live. Take your time.
Red Quills??? In August??? Must be a typo… Either that or you guys are calling some other May fly the Red Quill and do not mean the male Hendrickson which is on the water back here in the East anywhere basically from mid April to mid May ,
Mantis;
My chart does not show any quills, ever (sorry Tyflier!)!? However it does show the Dark Hendrickson and the True Hendrickson??
And, what in the world is a “White Golved Howdey”!!??
I feel more like I do now than I did when I got here!
ok…let me clarify. out here, i use a red quill as a general imitation of light to dark brown mayflies. i have never seen a “hendrickson hatch”. i have seen small, pale to medium brownish mayflies. i dont know what they are, and i dont really care . i know that a basic red quill pattern works for me in cali, and just might work in MI.
in fact, i tye a red quill pattern down to size 28 and use it to imitate small adult midges through the winter out here. i must say it is quite successful pretty much from the end of july through the beginning of april, for me.
sorry for the confusion. im not so much an entomologist as i am an observer. i see bugs, i tie flies that i hope matches them. the red quill works for me, much as a stimulator works for others. it “matches” several different types of fly i see on my waters through various times of the year.
Everyone dies. Only the lucky ever truly Live. Take your time.
Okay Chris…just when you used the latin baetis/calibaetis you seemed pretty exacting. That’s why the Red Quill which is really the first major early season.hatch in the East seemed out of place. Good recovery! lol.
Jack: Jim spelled it out phoenetically (where’s spell check when you need it) for you. Iso’s for short. They have little white feet and that’s where the ‘white gloved’ comes from About the last good sized may fly that often comes out around here in two distinct hatches timewise.
[This message has been edited by mantis (edited 16 October 2005).]
baetis and calibaetis are 2 types of dries available 'round here. the only differences as far as i can tell are size (cali. being a bit larger) and number of tails (baetis having 2, cali. having more than 2). go into any fly shop near me and ask for a baetis or a calibaetis and youll be pointed to shelves with nymphs, emergers and dries representing what i can only assume is the actual insect they refer to…
i only know the names because of the flies available in the shops…
Everyone dies. Only the lucky ever truly Live. Take your time.
Looking at my guide trip logs for August and early September, our best success came on #14 beetles tied with peacock hurl, with two gray CDC feathers pulled over the back to simulate long wavy legs, and white Hi-Viz pulled over the back for angler visibility.
Black ants, cinnamon ants, and a combination of black and red worked well. Size 14 & 16.
Parachute hoppers in brown or green in size 8 or 10 brought slashing rises.
Many fish were caught on size 16 BWO parachutes, and size 16 “Isonychia”–actually flies with longish gray microfibbet tails, dirty-brown and/or rusty brown bodies, a white post of hi-viz, and medium brown hackle tied parachute style around the post.
I already plan on going so does that mean I don’t have to listen to you hype it? My old boss (who was also in real estate) always told me never to keep trying to sell a house that you’ve already got sold.
As for flies, I’ll stand by my light, dark and darker Cahills; tied wet, dry and in various sizes. They can usually get me through almost any situation. And if Ray Dubois comes I can always bum some of his griffiths gnats for the real small stuff.
On the subject of MM and the Cabela’s thread: I talk to him on the chat all the time. He lives there. Really! Nice kid. Very intelligent. He tells everyone he’s thirteen but I think he’s really an eleven year old prodigy. In fact, he might only be eight or nine. Ya never know about them prodigies. I began to get suspicious when he stopped talking about starwars and took an interest in Sage fly rods, then changed his handle from mm to the more formal and grown up sounding Michael Murgida.
On the other hand he might be one of JC’s moles, planted there on purpose to keep the hosts on their toes. But “designated driver”? C’mon Jack, I give you more credit than that.
Later, RW
“We fish for pleasure; I for mine, you for yours.” -James Leisenring on fishing the wet fly-
[This message has been edited by Royal Wulff (edited 19 October 2005).]
Jack if you haven’t purchased “Michigan Trout Streams” by Bob Linsenman and Steve Nevala I think you should. Mapes,acsess points,hatch charts and patterns for 1,5oo designated trout streams,by county. Also listing fly shops outfitters and guides.
Till August 15 Blue-wing olive,next Tiny BWO till sept 15. Also Trico,White May Fly,Flying Black Ants Grasshoppers,Crickets and ANTS.
Bill
[This message has been edited by William Fitzgerald (edited 19 October 2005).]
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