Hi: I believe it was Eight Thumbs right that said this was his first swap??? Anyway, I think it was. But my point is, I live in East Central Alabama and we have no trout or fly tying clubs near me. So, I had to learn from forums, books, videos, the net and trial and error.. Oh, and that REAL BIG thing.. Swaps. I'm no pro by any means now as ya'll can clearly see by my flies. But swaps will MAKE you learn to tie flies.. So, do like I did. Join so many that you almost get burned out on them. not only will you learn from your own flies, you'll get flies from ppl who have been tying 30,40,50 years sometimes.. A treasure trove right there for you to look at and study.. HTH, Chuck (Alexander)

BTW Eight Thumbs, you flies were GREAT. Where did you get those rubber legs??? I like those..