what are some realistics that are good to start out with? i’ve never tried it, but it looks fun. please give pattern and pic, or a link to the fly. feel free to pm me as well. Just doing this for fun, not fishing
Thanks
WWFF
sorry no pics or anythng.
but stoneflies are a good place to start.
and the www.flytyingforum.com website has a section or 2 on realistic fly tying. that will probably help alot.
after checking out a few websites, i feel like some of them are impossible. how about fishable realistics for now
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they do look that way dont they!
i have never tried on for that reason, and the wierd materials needed.
as for fishable realistics…i have no idea.
i m going to stick to normal flies lol.
CarpCrazy, if u read this…
ur true skin stone pics aren’t showing up? i tried the one the BB and the ones u put on the fly tying forum.
they came up for me on here.
wonder why they dont work for you? :?
flyandtie can ya gimme a link to the ones that worked for u?
thanks
yep sure can, here you go.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18474
Fly Fishing Pressured Water by Lloyd Gonzales is a great reference for tying “fishable” realistics.
Ken
There is a great fishable realistic pattern in about every issue of Fly Tyer for the past couple years. A great online resource for tying both fishable and non-fishable realistics is http://www.realisticflytyer.com
I’d also suggest a stonefly nymph as a good place to start. Get yourself a clear 6" ruler with metric units on one side. The most important thing about realistics is proportions, and they’re a lot easier to get right if you’ve measure everything out ahead of time. Here’s a stone nymph I did a while back
There’s some other ones I’ve tied at the bottom of the first page at this link, and I think a couple on the 2nd page.
http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb278/cerveniak/Fly%20Tying/
There’s a few fishables mixed in as well. For me the big thing with fishable’s isn’t to make sure that the fly has every detail of the real thing. I’ve had much more success with fishable’s that look halfway close, and most importantly one’s that feature the main characteristics of the natural. For example, when stone nymphs are drifting in the current, their body takes a “C” shape, and their legs wriggle like crazy. My best stone nymph on the river is a simplified version of the one pictured above, with rubber legs, and an angora goat dubbed thorax.
One cool thing about tying realistics is your normal patterns will improve because of it, and you’ll think of ways to improve them to make them look or act more real. Here’s one I came up with based on a parachute dry fly
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb27 … wnwing.jpg
It floats a lot longer than my normal parachutes and still sits nice and low in the film. Plus it has a more realistic profile. It’s a good example how you don’t have to have 6 legs, eyes, leg hairs, gills, individual body segments, etc. to make a pattern a little more real.
Some great materials you’ll probably need at one point or another are
-yellow, brown, and black permanent/waterproof/non-bleeding markers
-Swiss Straw
-Medallion Sheeting
-Broom Bristles or Japanese Nymph Legs
-Latex
-Softex
You’ll probably already have many of the other things you’ll need. Or if you really want to challenge yourself you can follow in Bob Mead’s footsteps and try to create realistics with only natural materials.
Something else that will really come in handy is a pair of 1.5X-2.5X reading glasses.
WWFF, from my experience I can suggest you start with a kind of insect you are very familiar with, because this will let you put more detail on the flies, for example, my first realistic was a damsel fly nymph, because I have seen plenty of them and studied them. Second, get some good pictures of the real insect from various angles this is very helpful. As for the materials, you can use waht you have at hand, no need of really rare or hard to get materials, you can start using swiss straw to build abdominal segments an thorax, as for legs, you can use broom bristles and for smaller flies use bristles from a toothbrush, wings can be made very simple or complex, for simple ones just use swiss straw or a transluscent material and paint the veins on it, or use acetate and prin wing in the computer, but use laser printer, here you can see the procedure to build abdominal segments http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytyin … 7fotw.html and the use of printed wings, for more elaborete wings you can use hackle stems and swiss straw as in here :
One of the most important parts of the realistics, is the under body, to build this use the smallest cehnille you can find, some times I also use embroidery thread, make sure al you underbodies, are really smooth for this will definitevely affect tha final look on the fly.
Eyes can be made with different materials, monofilament, painted epoxy, glass beads and polyurethane balls this will depend on hte shape of the natural’s eye anmd of course of the size
I suggest you start with a fly with not too much detail, because mouth parts, gills, and hairy legs are frustrating some times but htey are made with ostrich herl stripped on one side.
If you need further help, please let me know, I say you start a fly and if you have doubts while you are tying it, just let me know.
Xavier
PS: Send me a PM with your mail and I’ll send you the stone step by step pics
flypimp,
that is AMAZING!!!
my first reaction was holy crap! :lol:
hey, google and now youtube have sme really good flies. on youtube they have a video explaining how to tie them. solarexpert (find it on google) has some amazing realistic flies although most you cant fish or it doesnt have the directions to
did my first realistic last night. Xavier i will send u a PM shortly with pics