My report on my Sage Smallmouth Bass fly rod!

Well, folks, it has taken me some time to finally get out and try the new Sage Smallmouth Bass rod I won from FAOL in the September drawing. I received the rod about the 2nd week of November and it is a real beauty! My rod building friend here played with it in his back yard and he really thought it should be a real winner for Sage. He said it was about time I got a 4 pc rod! He knows that I have always liked 2pc rods and this would be my first 4pc. I had him put alignment dots on it for me. Today the weather here was overcast, light rain and only in the 40’s. I decided to drive to one of the bridges over the lake and just walk the rip rap around the bridge pilings and play with different flies with the rod. Now I know that I will not be using this rod for what Sage intended it to be used for, but, since I am a nymph, streamer, bugger fisherman, that is what I wanted to try with the rod. I had tied up some #4 streamers and buggers plus I had the #10-12’s that I normanly use for trout. To begin with, I was afraid the rod would be real stiff and heavy, but, when I received it, I noticed that it only weighs 3.5 oz and it is very light in the hand. One could use it all day with no problems. I also found out that I did not own a reel that would be large enough to hold the fly line that came with the rod. Another friend of mine here had some fly fishing gear he wanted me to try and sell for him and he had a STH reel preloaded with backing and Rio 8wt floating line that he wanted $75 for so I bought it and put it on the new rod. I have not tried the fly line that comes with the rod yet nor have I tried casting any larger poppers with the rod. I did cast the larger streamer/buggers with the rod today and the smaller 10-12’s I had with me. This rod with the 8wt line cast them very smoothly and with no problems! This is a very nice casting rod and I will probably never use my 6 weight again! You could cast a 10-12 size bugger a country mile! I know the rod is over kill for the rivers, but, it is so light and it casts so well that I will probably use it on the rivers and try and hunt down some of the larger rainbows and browns that I know live there. This rod feels just like fishing with my 5 weight and just knowing that it has the backbone for larger fish is a good thing. I really do like this rod and I think for the price, it is a good investment for anyone who wants a nice casting light rod that has the backbone for landing larger fish. I will be spending a lot of time with this rod. I have another warm water river here that has largemouth and smallmouth bass in it and I plan to spend more time on it and have a ball with my new Sage Smallmouth Bass rod!

I would highly recommend this rod! By the way, I did catch 2 smallmouth bass today on my new fly rod and hopefully you will be able to see one of the pictures here.

Nice Report Warren! That is a beautiful Rod!
Doug

Thank you Warren, nicely done. :smiley:

Warren,

You lucky dog! Great report and pix.

Neat report, Warren!
Super, picture, too! Send it to Sage for the heck of it!?! Might even get a free hat! I did it once a few years ago with a Steelhead I caught and they sent me, a hat!?! :smiley:

Warren,
I second that idea and if I was you I’d frame that photo and put it on your wall.
Doug

Warren just gave away the secret Go To fly for waters around here!! He did not mention that he also caught a couple of Blue Gills too.
P.S. He’s even let me cast the rod, sweet!!

Did he? Yeah, I guess that nobody would ever think about using an olive woolly bugger around here…

One fly to Rule the all,
One fly to Find them.
One fly to Bring them all,
And to the tippet Bind them.

Warren, I’m glad that you had a good time with your new rod. I hope that you get to exercise some big trout, real soon.

Ed

great pic and nice report. have been eyeing one of these myself. please post an update when you have cast the rod with the line that came with it. am curious to see how it performs and if you feel it performs any differently than it did with the rio 8wt.

depenrod,

I sure am glad you asked me to try the line out that came with the Sage Smallmouth Bass rod! I removed the Rio 8wt and put on the line that came with the rod. I made up a 7 foot furled leader from Berkley 4 pound Vanish and installed a tippet ring. I then attached about 5 1/2 feet of Cabela’s 6 pound test fluorocarbon for tippet. For a fly I tied up the same fly I was using yesterday, which is a bugger but without any hackle. Just an olive marabou tail with 2 pieces of emeral green flash tied in the tail and the body is olive ice chenille. Under the body there were 12 wraps of .025 lead wire for weight. I used a size 6 streamer hook.

When you compare yesterday with today, you would think I tried out 2 different rods! The line that comes with it is certainly made for the rod! With just a nice smooth stroke back and stop and a smooth stroke forward and stop, the line shoots out without any extra effort from you the caster! I even tried a bead head bugger with the same results. When I say you do not need to apply any effort, I mean you do not need to push the line any. It will flow like hot butter through the guides. If you apply any pressure the line will slap the rod close to the stripping guide when it has cast all the line you had stripped out of the reel! Just a smooth casting stroke is all it takes and 30 feet of line is gone! Everything turned over beautifully from the fly line, furled leader, tippet and fly and the fly lands straight out in front. I do not consider myself a good fly caster, but, this rod makes me look real good at casting! :slight_smile: I did manage to catch 2 crappie that were around the 14" mark and then the rain, wind and cold air just got to be too much and I came home. Overall, this Sage Smallmouth rod with its own line casts like a dream and it also handled the 8wt line very well, but, nothing compared to how it casts with the line that comes with it! The 8wt Rio line I was using was not marked and the gentleman I purchased the STH Cayuga M reel from said it was an Rio 8wt line. I did put a fly line scale on my Christmas list and if “Santa” brings it, I plan to check the line plus several others I have that I cannot remember what size they are!!

The Sage Smallmouth Bass rod with its own line is a really good deal and it is one fantastic rod to use. I would recommend it to anyone. I really like it and will get many enjoyable trips out of it.

Thanks to Sage and FAOL for this fantastic opportunity!

Warren,
Nice report & followup…sounds like you’re having lots of fun with that new toy.
Mike

warren, thanks for the follow up. makes me want one even more now.

depenrod,

I honestly feel I now own 2 rods in one. The Sage rod with the line that came with it, is definately a great combination for larger flies and poppers and I will use it this way for my warm water fishing. The Sage rod with 7 or 8 weight line can and will be used in my cold water fishing for larger trout. Now I have to try and locate another spool for my STH Cayuga M reel so that I can switch spools to match the fishing trip! :slight_smile:

The way this rod performs, either way, it is a great deal when you figure it comes with the carry case and line. I am really impressed with it. When you get one, you are going to love it.

Wow! Well done. I enjoyed the story. Nice rod too. :smiley:

Thank you Warren!!!,

For trying the line that came with the rod!!!..Was getting pretty antsy reading this thread and thinking you may never give us the full skinny on how it performs as sage had it designed…I gotta confess to having Never had a Sage rod in my hands…But with these rods set to hit the market…I might be selling off a few Bammies to afford to finially have a Sage in my possession! Maybe even send a heads up out to a certain FAOLer who asked for a first dibb’s!

Thanks again!

Great report Warren, hope to see the rod one of these days.

:mrgreen:

Congrats and nice job! I really wanted to win that rod, but I am glad it went to Warren. 8)

Sage Bass Rod Link; http://www.sageflyfish.com/default.asp?p=139

WarenP;

Great report on the Sage Bass rod; and, as Castwell says, we never outgrow our need for information relative to fly fishing. So, I take it from your report that a rod designated 290 grain is equivalent to an 8wt? Is the 330 grain equivalent to a 9wt? What’s with the “grain” designations? Haven’t run into these terms so far in my FF’ing experience.

Thanks, Jim

Jim,

According to this chart, the 290 grain line would be closer to a 10wt line and the 330 grain line would be pushing the 11wt line. The Smallmouth rod handles 8wt line very well and the Sage line sent with the rod would really handle the much heavier bass poppers and heavier streamers better. I had to push the 8wt line a little with the much heavier flies, but, no pushing needed with the line sent with the rod. I think what I like the most about the Smallmouth rod is that the rod is very light “in the hand” and could be used all day with no problems. To me, it is like owning 2 rods in one. When I decide to hit the rivers with larger buggers, streamers, etc., I will use this rod with the 8wt line and when I want to hit the lakes or larger warm water rivers and throw the larger weight buggers, streamers or larger poppers/rat type flies, I will use the line that came with the rod. I will use the same reel and just have 2 spools (as soon as I locate another spool for the STH Cayuga M reel that I am using). This Smallmouth Bass rod is a very nice handling rod.

I found the following line weight chart through a “Search” on FAOL:

Finally, a fly rod is no different from a casting or spinning rod when it comes to casting. It is designed to load and cast with a specific amount of weight. The fly line number you refer to, correlates to a certain amount of weight, usually measured over the first 25 to 35 feet of fly line length. For future reference, here is the line rating to weight figures decided upon by AFTMA in the early 1960’s.

2-weight - 80 grains/.183 ounce

3-weight - 100 grains/.229 ounce

4-weight - 120 grains/.274 ounce

5-weight - 140 grains/.320 ounce

6-weight - 160 grains/.366 ounce

7-weight - 185 grains/.423 ounce

8-weight - 220 grains/.503 ounce

9-weight - 250 grains/.571 ounce

10-weight - 300 grains/.686 ounce

11-weight - 350 grains/.800 ounce

12-weight - 400 grains/.914 ounce
~ Tom Kirkman