A Newbie's Journey

A Newbie?s Journey:

My wife bought an inexpensive fly rod and reel for me for Christmas. I?ve practiced casting in the back yard and I can pretty much put a straight cast where I want it. I?ve also practiced the roll cast in our pool because I’ve found that the resistance that the water puts on your line makes all the difference when trying to learn to roll cast.

I?ve only been out fly fishing 4 times so far. But each time I go I learn a little bit more. I went to our local river Tuesday evening after work and as I was hiking back to the car I realized how much I?ve learned so far. I thought I?d share that with you and hopefully let other newbies know they?re not alone in their struggles.

As I said, I?ve only been out a few times. I tend to lose 4 or 5 flies to trees and bushes each time. I have all the normal problems. I get wind knots, I hang up my fly in the trees, my knots come untied. I had a very cheap set of nylon waders but they leaked after the first time out and the 2nd time out the ripped wide open.

First lesson: $20 nylon waders from the local sporting goods store are worthless.

On Tuesday I drove 15 minutes to the Bear River just downstream from Rollins Lake in the foothills of the Sierra mountains. Not having waders I knew I would be fishing from the bank. So I hiked in a ways until the trail brought me to a series of slow moving pools below some riffles. I found a spot on the bank with low bushes behind me and I rigged up with a 6x tapered leader and a pale evening dun fly. Knowing that I?ve lost flies just because my knots were bad I decided to really concentrate on making my improved cinch knot perfect.

Second lesson: Wetting the line and pulling the knot tight quickly seem to make all the difference.

About 10 feet out there?s a rock with a dark, deep pool on the downstream side. I approached the stream low and quietly and roll cast to the darkness. OK, I didn?t get a rise, but I was able to cast a dozen times or so and didn?t hang up my line so that?s good. Then I tried casting further out to another dark hole. I kept my back cast up above the bushes and about half of my cast actually went fairly close to where I wanted them to go. It was as if all that casting practice actually helped.

On the other hand, back home in the yard I can cast wherever I want. Out on the river everything seems to change.

Third lesson: just go do it. You?ll make mistakes and tangle your line, but casting on a river is totally different and you?ll learn a lot just by trying.

I moved upstream to another big pool and this time I just snuck up to the river and sat behind a rock looking for a rise. I couldn?t see anything straight on. But I kept thinking that I was seeing something out of the corner of my eye. I?d turn and there would sometimes be a tiny circle of ripples but most of the time nothing. I wondered if I saw anything at all.

I was able to do about 2 dozen cast before I caught my fly in the tree behind me. But this time the knot held and I was able to gently retrieve my fly. I still wasn?t getting any bites and I couldn’t even see fish rising. I did see little white flies about the size of my pale evening dun fly so I probably picked the right fly, but I’m starting to wonder if there are fish in this river.

Since I couldn?t seem to get a fish to rise I just practiced watching my fly on the water. I paid close attention to how my fly line laid in the water and how the current played with the line and the fly. I started to see how when the line was in the current a certain way the fly would drift naturally. But if the line laid out a different way the fly would start to drag and then get pulled under. OK, so that must be what all this ?natural drift? talk is about. I could see what Doug Swisher was talking about on the casting DVD I have. I tried to do the reach cast but it just wasn’t working out. I think more practice is needed.

I finally lost my fly in another tree. But at least I?ve been fishing with it for over an hour instead of losing a fly every 5 minutes and taking another 5 minutes to get that darn cinch knot tied. So I decided to try a bead head nymph and fish under the surface.

Lesson Four: Wow, casting with a tiny bit of weight on your line is REALLY different. I ended up pausing on my back cast even longer than I was before because I could feel the nymph pop as it changed directions on my backcast.

I got about 4 cast in before I lost the nymph in a tree. By that time it was really starting to get dark and I had a couple steaks waiting at home for dinner. So I hiked out and just enjoyed the incredible view.

It feels like every time I go out I?m getting just a little bit better. I?m tying my knots are a little bit faster, I?m getting more cast in before I tangle my fly in a tree, I?m starting to see how get a natural drift, I can SEE and HEAR when my fly presentation on the water is nice and gentle vs. splashing down. I?ve still never caught a fish while fly fishing but each time I feel like I?m a little bit better than the last time. Each time I feel a little bit more confident.

Now, if I could only find a darn fish.

That was a very good article and I enjoyed every bit of it. Thanks for posting it. I think if all those who are new to fly fishing would just read your article they would be able to learn that practice is the secret. I only wish I lived closer to you so that I could assist you plus I would love to be with you when that first fish is on your line! I am not an instructor and far from it, but, I just know that I could assist you with some of this and help in some way. Another thing you could do that would be a lot of fun and very good practice is to find a pond close to you that has some bluegill in it. They will hit your trout flies and give you practice on landing fish. Keep on practicing please keep us posted on your progress. Don’t give this fly fishing up. Once everything falls in place, you will have a great time! I have only been at it about 14 years and I still get wind knots and probably always will, but, I have a blast using a fly rod and enjoy every second of the experience. Just go and enjoy your time with nature and your fly rod.

Good post! :slight_smile:

DruLeeParsec,

Your first catch will come soon enough. A big part of ff is the journey of learning. Whenever I fish, and especially if it is an area new to me, I will just observe. Sometimes it is an hour before I make my first cast.

Sounds like you are having a great time. Thanks for sharing your journey. I hope it never ends. Don?t every lose your sense of wonder. It’s one the best things I find about ff.

Well thank you both so much for the kind words.

Just after I posted that a young man here at work came by to say good-bye. He’s finishing up his college internship and he’s moving on to a real job. We got to talking and it turns out that he’s been fly fishing for about 2 years and he’s looking for people to go fishing with. I’m sure I can learn something from him. We traded phone numbers and I may have a new fishing buddy.

It wasn’t a fish but there’s a first "catch’ that may turn out to be far better.

It wasn’t a fish but there’s a first "catch’ that may turn out to be far better.

That may be true. And he’s young enough that his eyes probably still work. I can just hand him a fly and my tippet and say “Here ya go. Tie that fly for me” :lol: Even with my glasses I have a tough time threading the line through the hook. I think I’m going to get myself one of those flip down magnifiers that clips onto your hat. I won’t look too much like an old man if I do that will I? I mean, I’m only in my mid-ish-moving-towards-late-fourties.

Great post. THank you. Sounds like you got hooked (on flyfishing). I think I spent close to a year before hooking my first fish. I’m not at all surprised you haven’t caught one yet but soon… soon.

jed

DruLeeParsec,

As the others mentionned, … Very Nice pOst. Thanks.

Don’t worry about “that first one”. There will be plenty (eventually).

Heck, … I went probably close to 3 seasons before connecting to my first Atlantic salmon. Welcome to the FAOL family and an even warmer welcome to our “passion”. You seem to be well on your way 8)

When I first started Fly fishing (a whole 5 months ago :smiley: ), I would sit while watching TV with a piece of 12 lb test and a bass hook and practice the knots I wanted to use. For fly to tippet, I settled on the
Duncan Loop. ( http://www.animatedknots.com/uniknot/index.php ) It’s fairly easy to tie, and does double duty as a loop or a knot. I dislike the clinch from my bass-fishing days. I lost many a lure before I learned to tie the version that goes thru the eye twice. :frowning:
Kirk

Last night my wife and I took the dog for a walk down to the Bear river where I was fishing. As happens when I don’t have a rod with me, I could see fish hitting bugs on the surface. We stood there and watched one fish hit bug with a big splash 5 times in only 2 to 3 minutes.

So when I was there on Tuesday I couldn’t find a fish anywhere. Now that I’m walking with my dog, I see fish jumping. :lol:

That may be true. And he’s young enough that his eyes probably still work. I can just hand him a fly and my tippet and say “Here ya go. Tie that fly for me” Even with my glasses I have a tough time threading the line through the hook. I think I’m going to get myself one of those flip down magnifiers that clips onto your hat. I won’t look too much like an old man if I do that will I? I mean, I’m only in my mid-ish-moving-towards-late-fourties.

I too have trouble getting the tippet through the eye of the hook. You may want to also consider threader boxes. C&F makes a very good one, works for me.

Dru;
First a big welcome to the greatest fly fishing site anywhere!
I enjoyed your post, very well done! I hope to see the story of your first “Catch” as a featured article in “Readers Casts”.
Again, welcome and I hope to see you here often!

Dru,

Great post, I really enjoyed reading it. I can see you are doing all the things you should be doing. You are well on your way. I’ve been fly fishing for almost 30 years and I still donate the occassional fly to the tree gods and I still get wind knots. Only Lefty Kreh doesn’t get wind knots, and I’m not sure I believe him.

I went out again this evening. I ate dinner a bit early and then went out to see if I could catch an evening hatch.
My river of choice is the Bear River because it’s only about 8 miles from my house and it’s a just quick 10 minute drive.

The fish were jumping tonight. I stood back from the bank and tied on a pale evening dun (Parachute) on a 7x tippet. Then I tried to find a place where I could cast from the bank. I don’t have waders yet so I’m limited to casting from where I can get a clear backcast or only roll casting. I just couldn’t get the fly out to where they were rising.

So I walked upstream and found a rock that jutted out into the water. Carefully, I roll cast out into the current and let the current take my fly down to the rising trout. After about 6 tries I thought I felt a tug so I set the hook and I think I had something for just a second. But when I reeled in I had a broken tippet. So I think I did get a strike, I just lost it.

I cast a dozen more times or so but it started getting pretty dark and I couldn’t really see my fly any more. So I stuck one of those peel and stick foam strike indicators on the end of my fly line and I just kept letting my fly float down stream until I couldn’t see the indicator any more. I didn’t get any more strikes and I noticed that the fish weren’t rising as much so I cleaned up and started hiking back out.

Now, on the way in I startled a half a dozen turkey buzzards who were feeding on a kill just about 20 feet uphill from the trail. They made a racket as they all flew off and THEN I caught a whiff of whatever they were feeding on. Let’s just say it was a hot day today. So now I’m hiking back out by moonlight and flashlight and as I catch that smell again I realize that I’m hiking alone in an area that has been known to have mountain lions and I’m right next to a kill. I just made lot of noise and talked out loud to let anything that was there know I was coming. More than likely, it was a coyote that got whatever the buzzards were feeding on.

As I arrived home I thought about how lucky I am to be able to leave at 7:30, get in an hour of fishing on a beautiful river, and be back home by 9:30. I’m really going to enjoy this hobby.

Wow mate, they are nice little stories. I was getting real jealous of you in that beautiful river till you told me about the mountain lion or whatever and I lost interest!

Your perspective is interesting, because you are right, you will always get wind knots or stuck in trees. Some absolute gurus I have fished with still get into trouble and have fishless days. The thing is that as you persevere they get fewer.

Good luck with your new obsession, I’m sure we all look forward to helping you out a littler here and there, and reading more of those stories.

I bought some of those flip downs and couldn’t stand them sitting right above my field of vision all the time like a cobweb or something on my glasses! I struggle to see too, but you can cope with a threading tool, prescription glasses, or threaders as stated.

You first fish will come as a wonderful and memorable surprise very soon I think.

Good luck.

awwwww that 7x broke on you ehh
lol
but that first fish will come eventualy and what a sweet fish it will be :smiley:
oh and keep the good stories coming
:lol: :lol:

chris

awwwww that 7x broke on you ehh

Yeah, it’s pretty darn light. Of course, it could just be a bad knot that came untied. :?

As far as mountain lions go, they have such a large range that the odds of meeting one are pretty darn small. Also, they caught one in this area last year that was eating chickens. pets and such. He was a big one. The photo in the paper just showed a guy holding the spread paw. The mountain lion paw was almost as big as the adult’s two hands together. But since they caught it and mountain lions tend to be individual hunters that was probably the lion in this area because their range tends to be roughly 10 to 20 miles on a side.

But we do hear coyotes at night. And there certainly are food sources. I see deer nearly every day. There are wild turkeys in the woods, and years ago somebody was raising peacocks and several got out of the pen. So in the town of Weimar we now have wild peacocks roaming around.

I love living in the Sierra foothills.

I really enjoyed your telling of your experiences, after 44 years of fly fishing I still remember my learning curve, and it still isn’t over yet! There are days I think I have the whole thing figured out and then there are days I wonder if I know anything at all. That’s the beauty of it.
It sounds like you’re getting the hang of the casting thing down a little, keep practicing, you can never learn enough. Find a local fly shop and attend some casting classes. This will help you a lot.
The next thing you need to pay serious attention to is how to read the water. Learn all about the fish, how they react, where they live, what they react to. It’s the next big leap in your learning curve. For example, did you know that trout have better eye sight than we do? They have not only the ability to see color more vividly than we do but they also see monocular and binocular at the same time, everything everywhere is always in focus. Coupled with eyes that are on the side of their head and the ability to swivel those eyes this gives them the ability to see an extremely wide angle all at once. Their blind spots are about an inch from their nose and around a 20 degree area behind their tail.
Equipment is a big part of the equation. You mentioned you recieved a cheap outfit, but didn’t mention the weight, or maybe I missed that. The difference between a cheap outfit and the proper outfit is like compairing a fine rod to a tent pole. Start thinking about that. Yes, it’s expensive, but just like everything in life it costs money. A 5 weight is an excellent rod for trout, a good all purpose outfit. Rocket taper line will give you distance but hamper short casts. Double taper will give you control on short to medium casts and have the ability to flip the line when it wears out, saving some money. Good waders are essential, the really good ones cost an arm and a leg. I use Simms guide series and they are on there 5th season now, the longest I have ever had a set of waders.
Read everything you can get your hands on. You can pick up a lot of tips this way.
7x is an extremely light tippet and very easy to break off the fly, on not only the back cast but also setting the hook. 5x is a general weight leader, and you can taper down on the tippet. 6x should do the trick, except to the most finicky of trout. Don’t worry about them. Concentrate on the fish you can see. Such as, when you do see a rise, try to put the fly about 2-3 feet in front of the ring and let it drift into his zone. A rising fish is an active fish. They are territorial and tend to have their favorite feeding area scoped out and defend it.
The river you fish looks absolutely beautiful! What type of trout do you have in it? Browns fish slightly different than rainbows. Rainbows like fast water, hanging out where the foam line will bring them food, Browns are ambushers and don’t care to expend too much energy,. Undercut banks are a common ambush sight for them. Cutthroats, ( my eyes glass over every time I say that ), some say are too easy, I have never really seen the day that a cutthroat was easy. Probably because of the remotness of the area to find them. Brooks, when you find them, are extremely proliferent, over populate, and over feed their area thus stunting them, at least in the high country where I fish. They will feed at most any time and strike whatever is available, at least in the high country. I do understand there are areas where the feed is sufficient enough to allow them to grow large and allow them to become picky, but in the Rocky mountains where I fish a 10 inch brook is a nice size.
Above all, time on the water is your biggest advantage. Apply all you learn and just enjoy the time you have on it.

Tom:

I was listening to the “Fly Fishing Radio” podcast with Norm Albiston talking about a fish’s sensory input. He really got into the way a fish can see as well as the incredible sense of smell that fish have. The lateral line is a sense that we humans can only imagine. His lectures are right down the alley of what you are saying.

My setup WAS a cheap $20 Caddis Creek rod and reel and yes, the phrase “Tent pole” came to mind. But a buddy of mine who’s retired gave me an old Shakespear Presidential fly rod. Apparently, the original rod was made for President Eisenhower and then they made copies for the consumer market. It’s a very flexible 4-5 weight fiberglass rod and I’m really starting to feel like it’s my buddy. When I practice casting I find myself noticing the feel of the rod loading up and I’m starting to respond to that feedback.

Also, my friend who gave me this rod is sort of my surrogate grandfather. All of my grandparents have passed away and Ed, my friend, lost his son to a drunk driver a few years ago. I hang out with him like I use to with my grandfather and he tends to treat me like a surrogate son. So when I use his fishing rod I feel this connection that’s a pretty cool thing. I’m sure by this time next year I’ll have a nice graphite rod, but I’m going to catch my first fish on my old Shakespear Presidential. And when I do Ed will get a phone call that very day.

I think I’ll take your advice and tie on a 5x or 6x tippet next time.

What type of trout do you have in it?

I’m told that they’re browns and brook trout. Being in the Sierra mountain we certainly have rainbows as well, but I’m not sure it they’re in this particular river. One book that I found says that while the American River (which is about 15 miles away) has up to 800 pounds of trout per mile the Bear river only gets stocked with 500 pound of fish per year. However, where I fish is just below the dam that forms Rollins Lake and that lake get stocked with trout and bass several times a year. The tail waters of that earth dam is where I fish so there may be fish of whatever sort are stocked upstream in Rollins Lake.

Yes, it’s expensive, but just like everything in life it costs money.

I’m a bit of a woodworker and I’ve discovered that with any type of tool it’s best to follow the rule of “Buy the best and you only cry once.”

I’m looking into waders by Cabela’s, Simms, or Orvis. I think I’ll get the stocking foot kind and then get wading boots. That will save a bit of money on the waders and I can keep using the boots if I need to upgrade or replace the waders.

I just found a local fly fishing club that meets on the 2nd Wednesday of every month. I’m going to go to the next meeting and find out where I can take some casting lessons.

I’m at work now thinking about how just last night I was standing on a river bank watching trout splash as they took bugs off of the surface. I’m just so glad to live where I do.

I’m curious about what model number rod it is. The Presidential was a name that Shakespeare applied to a whole series of glass rods at the upper end of their spectrum. It was not one specific model. One of my favorite rods is a Model 848 Presidential. It’s a 7’9" rod that works well with a 6-weight.