planettrout,
i agree completely, loved the post.
planettrout,
i agree completely, loved the post.
If I like the color of the dubbing I use it. UV or not. I have not seen one shred of evidence that UV works at all. UV has not increased my strikes one bit. That being said, there are some purdy colors and I will continue to use it, other synthetics,and natural dubbings.
I have seen some posts where tyers use Photoshop, or another app. to make UV look cool. In the end, the trout will let you know what they want. That being said, if you like the color, do not let it being UV stop you from using it.
I bought 3 packs of uv2 dubbing and 1 glowed under my clear cure light, but 2 didn't - does this mean the one that glowed was fluorescent, not UV? And is there any light that shows up the uv part?
WE can't see the UV.
Any light that makes the 'UV show up' won't do us any good, since we can't see it. Many 'UV' products add some fluorescence so that when exposed to a 'UV light source' people see something, thus thinking that the stuff 'works'. Things can reflect both fluorescence and UV. There is no way for human eyes to tell if something reflects UV light, again, we can't see it.
UV shows up under any light that has UV in it, like outdoor light.
WE have only the manufacturers word that something is UV enhanced. I don't know how they can tell...
Whether it 'works' on the fish or not? No clue. It certainly works on fishermen...
Buddy
It Just Doesn't Matter....
Well Buddy...Originally Posted by Buddy Sanders
Get some and try it...but make certain ya' don't dress the base of the pattern with either white thread, pearl or silver Mylar ...that way, it is possible to say: "This stuff doesn't work!"
PT/TB
Daughter to Father, "How many arms do you have, how many fly rods do you need?"
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I have played with UV materials quite a bit and believe they make a difference and I have had a couple experiences that made me believe the differences were huge. Five guys fishing side by side at the outlet of a smallish lake on Kodiak Island... four were fishing a scud pattern tied with UV... one used another that looked the same color, but was not UV.
The UV patterns were being hit on every cast and if a fish was lost on the way in another took the fly before it could be retrieved. I tried the "dead" rod and caught nothing. When the UV pattern was tied on the fish hit like they were the other four scuds...
Not a solo example as there have been many similar events for me the last few years. For some fish and some circumstances I am sold on UV.
There is a great book written by Reed Curry on UV, if you are interested or skeptical in the subject I suggest you read the book. Very scientific with documentation but easy to read. The New Scientific Angler.
UV light pic.jpg
I have this book and found it very informative. I had to read it twice though, because what I perceive is still not what a fish perceives.
The author uses digital photography techniques to capture UV images of material and then uses digital techniques to transform the images into something we can see. At least we can understand the UV portions of bugs and materials.
Many natural materials have UV properties, and the clearest example is the fur of actic creatures. Apparently snow reflects UV @85%. So does the fur of polar bear, arctic hare, and arctic fox - even though they are white, they also need to match the UV reflective qualities of their background in order to avoid detection.
As well, several feathers show an enhanced UV pattern, and on a bird covered with feathers there would be an overall UV pattern (my interpretation) ? good for mating. Mayfly wings also show UV patterns by species.
According to the book, the following feathers reflect UV: white, light dun or grizzly cock neck, barred turkey, the lighter glossier portion of a white or gray duck quill (like we use in feather wing slips), white goose biot, white bucktail (duh, no wonder the raised flag is such a good warning to other deer - if they can see it).
A second suggestion in the book is that a fly is particularly successful if it contains both UV reflective material and UV absorbing material (particularly dark brown and black). Thus the fish sees a bug go by that is 'UV bright' (we have no word for this since we can't see UV) and also has parts that are a 'UV black hole' - can you say "Prince's Nymph"? This stands out against the normal watery background much better apparently.
So, historical fly tiers stumbled on the best materials years ago. To get back to the initial thread, just put a gray duck quill wingcase on your PTN or add a few grizzly legs. My $0.02 anyway.
Last edited by Greg H; 01-05-2014 at 02:59 PM.
Gonna try this stuff, do I need to tie it with white thread, and a pearl underbody? Not being facetious, just want to do it right. Should I leave the head white also?
"Spirit River recommends always tying in a base of pearl or silver Mylar or white thread to enhance the reflectivity of the patterns."
http://avidanglerflyfishing.blogspot...uv2-tying.html
The head may be a bead, cone, glass bead or thread color of your choosing...
PT/TB
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