Thanks all for all the info. That epinions website neat. Thanks for that. Bamboozle...tks for reminding me about the PTT. That is what I saw being used and is definitely a feature I want. I got's lot's a research to do though. I went to epinions and a review on one said very low range...and didn't say iffen it had PTT. A whole lot of resources though. Impressed the drowned radio worked. Usually when a speaker gets wet, it cracks and doesn't work too well...or the granules in the transmit mouthpiece stik together and the other person can't hear you. On epinions price ranged $238 and down to I think $9. Like the .37 cent idea....can try those for little of nothing. I am about 3.5 hours from major stores though. But I sure got a lot of good help. Thanks to all of you.