and as far as removing the warranty and bringing down costs to consumers, call me a cynic but that ain't gonna happen. you'll pay the same for the rod with no warrantee is the more likely scenario.

and grnmtnman--i didn't refer to the cost of the car--my question was if you crashed your car, and it was your fault, would you use your insurance to have it repaired?

[This message has been edited by D. Micus (edited 07 November 2005).]