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    Hi, Everyone!

    Back in Maine and just thought some of you might find this interesting.

    Living here, Labrador is just a longish drive North, and David and I finally did that, and then hopped a float plane into a lodge for our first time fishing for those rumored really big brook trout. Dreamed of it for a long time, although I never really thought we'd go.

    Once we realized it was going to happen, we made two bigger cane rods together, both of us planing both of them, wrapping the guides, etc, together, for part of the fun.

    Since I just don't fish a 7-wt or 8-wt normally, the next challenge was to design the leader taper. I settled on a 20 to 10 taper, though the middle section was a curious fellow - grin, it seemed to transfer energy smoothy from the line to both 3X and 1X tippet.

    We added a few lunker conehead flies to our dries and drove up the remarkably nice mining road to Labrador City, watching the black spruce and caribou moss slowly take over.

    Since the week before we arrived was uncommonly warm, the water temps rose to near 70 and the brook trout sunk to the bottom, in heavy water and rapids, no less. I knew the learning curve would be steep for me (being a small stream, secret fish, kind of person). Still, the guides were VERY patient and skilled, and the rods and the leaders did their jobs nicely. I didn't break any records, but I may never bring a 5-lb brook trout to hand again in my lifetime, so I was pretty excited.

    The others must have thought the leaders worked nicely, too, because, by the fourth night back at the lodge, the owner had scrounged up my short list of necessities and we had a furled leader clinic! We used a 2X4 with finish nails, borrowed a cup hook from the cook and thread from the tying bench, and the drill from the generator shed.

    The whole thing made me smile and think of you.

    Kat

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    Kathy,

    Really enjoyed the story and congratulations on catching the nice brook trout! Furled leaders are the only way to go for me and your DVD is the greatest way to get started making your own!
    Warren
    Fly fishing and fly tying are two things that I do, and when I am doing them, they are the only 2 things I think about. They clear my mind.

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    Sounds like a trip I could only dream of. I'm glad you got to take it and enjoy the memories for the rest of your life.

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    How about a link to the DVD. I know, I'm lazy.
    They're just fish, right? Right?

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    Kathy, nice to hear from you here again. I have been experimenting with tapers for the big guns as you mentioned. I musta done something right cause so far no complaints and some BIG FISH.
    We need to compare notes again...you are and will always be my hero

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    Lew,

    Go to the home page here on FAOL, in the Search window type:

    "Furled Leader DVD" and then click your enter key and when the next page opens up, go to line #2 and click on it

    This will give you all the information you want on Kathy Scott and her DVD.

    It is a very good DVD and you will be able to start making your own furled leaders within 30 minutes of viewing it. After viewing the DVD and making your own, the other web sites discussing furled leader making will make more sense. I found the other web sites very confusing (of course I am not the sharpest tool in the tool shed) and ordered Kathy's DVD and have been making my own furled leaders ever since and will never go back to any other leader.

    I hope this helps....
    Warren
    Fly fishing and fly tying are two things that I do, and when I am doing them, they are the only 2 things I think about. They clear my mind.

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    Kathy -

    I'm looking to build a furled leader to use with my 7 wt. Sounds like your 20-10 taper might be the ticket ??

    Would you be giving away a trade secret to further describe it, in terms of starting length, material, number of steps down, ratio of total length for each section, and what size tip ring you used ??

    Seems to me that giving out that information might be a great sales pitch and boost sales of your DVD !!!

    John

    Or, you could send me a PM which I would keep totally CONFIDENTIAL, if so requested.
    The fish are always right.

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    Hi,

    Such a nice welcome home, you guys!

    John, we're all about collaboration here (we're even both Scotts, grin), so I certainly don't mind sharing.

    I extended my board just a little, so the leader was a full six feet, maybe a little longer (the board is in Michigan and I've since forgotten). Then, I wrapped the butt loops at 10 threads each (together 20), but only 5 threads on either side of the tip (total 10). The middle was a gnarly intertwining of a 10 and a 5, but looked much worse than it cast, which was nicely, I thought.

    I looped on 3X or 1X (or sometimes 2X), about 3 1/5 feet, for tippet, while I put a tippet ring on for David.

    This was the best compromise I could devise for chucking a big conehead wooly bugger (although I let the tippet shorten to nil with those since presentation wasn't an issue), but my 8wt dropped a size 12 White Wulff nice enough to appease the brook trout in a little ripple, and it still floated.

    There may be better formulas out there, but I didn't want anything fancy, just useful, as I only had a day or two to get it all together.

    Hope this helps.

    Oh - Lew - hi, and this should help, too, although I have a kit with all of the little tools and the dvd now, too... PM me?

    http://www.flyanglersonline.com/prorevw/kathyscott.php

    Kat

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    Kat -

    Thanks.

    Hadn't thought much about making a two stage leader, pretty much a passing thought a couple times is all. I wonder if stepping it down to something like 14 or 16 for a foot or so in the middle would eliminate that "gnarly intertwining" ?? But then, I'm not really familiar with just how you set up and lay out your thread, so maybe it wouldn't do on your system ??

    Guess I'll give it a try one of these days soon - both in a 20-10 and something like a 20-14-10. If nothing else, I'll learn something, which will make that a good day.

    John
    The fish are always right.

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    Actually, maybe my clea-as-mud explaination results in pretty much the same thing you're considering, a 20-15-10 taper

    Kat

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