ok thanks for all the pointers and ideas. I am now leaning torward a 5 weight. now I just got to find one with a lifetime warranty for the rod and one with a decent reel and some line for around $200 or so. any ideas? I am gonna search a lil more. I like the idea of building my own rod but would hate to screw it up and waste $70 bux. I have no clue how to even build one what to use, or no tools to build it with.