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    Just to be clear, I never used the term 'Unconditional'.

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    I will not state an opinion on this subject to save everyone from buying a lot of popcorn! Here is a picture of a fly rod and reel that I really enjoy using and they both fish great for my style and income and if either one fails, I will not notifiy the vendors even though I feel they both would want to do something because they are good people with small internet businesses. The reel is going on 3 years of use and cost me new $30 and the rod is new this year and cost me $100. If they fail I feel they served me well and I can always replace them by contacting the vendors. The rod and reel do not have any warranty and that is fine with me.

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    Only two, thank god, experiences with broken rods. Sent one rod back to company when it broke at mid point and it appeared to me that the inside portion had a defect. The company replaced it, no charge, except for shipping and they agreed it was faulty. Second rod tip accidentally got slammed in the truck door when a wind blew it shut. Told the company was my fault and would be glad to pay the replacement cost. They graciously declined and sent me a new tip. Took care of future door slamming by buying a set of magnets built for holding rods to side of vehicle while gearing up.

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    Unfortunately, I have broken more than 2 rods. One had a "Lifetime Warranty" when it was new. A very whippy glass spinning rod. It broken above the handle, the company offered me a coupon off the price of a new rod. They had quit making that particular series of rod and instead of sending me some comparable, a letter from the president of the company explained the warranty was for the life of the rod. I nor any of my friends have purchased rod of that brand in e last 25 years.

    The other was TFO, which was replaced for the $25 shipping and handling fee. Unfortunately, it was not warranted against leaving it in the bottom of the river.
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    Jesse,

    You stated, "Unfortunately, it was not warranted against leaving it in the bottom of the river."

    I cannot think of any reason why you would go there in the first place and and then forget your rod when leaving!
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    Warren, I didn't go there, I was busy trying to make it to the next sunrise and didn't prevent my rods from going to the bottom of the river. Although I was already wet the water temperature and the air temperature prevent me from considering probing for rods that day. I didn't drown. Mr. Kevin Proctor customized and made me a gift of a much better rod than the 5 wt. I lost. My Colorado Customs Rod is the best casting rod I have ever used. I found a bright blue Ross 4 wt., that was christened on the Elk River last fall and proved to be an adequate rod for most my fishing. I stopped by a local National Guard unit and made a swap to replace the boonie hat I had worn since 1989, it was last seen floating south on the Hooch. Today I am whole from my losses or even better off than before them.
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    Some great responses here. I think the fact we are now paying over $650 for a graphite rod it should be unconditional. Seriously. Even if shut in a door. I would feel guilty at all. Bamboo on the other hand is a different story. In all honesty, I know the technology and time involved in coming up with the lightest, latest greatest, but over $700.?????? I take my hat off to Orvis. I recently shattered the top two sections on my T3 battling a 10 lb Carp. I sent it back for about $20. with insurance as this is a first generation T3. FOUR weeks after they received it I got it back not only with new sections but they put a new reel seat and cork on! The price on this rod was over $600. new....this is the treatment that should come in my opinion.
    Now these companies with the $150 rods and unconditional, to me they are more than generous, but they are marketing to new comers and this happens. It should be costing first born, but it is.

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    Given the logical reasoning of several responders, the car manufacturer or the dealership should pay for the repair if you buy a new car and a week later crash it into your garage, or a fire hydrant, or have an accident that's clearly your fault.
    Oh, and for the record, the original post did not mention an 'Unconditional' guarantee.
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    Alan, I think that if the auto manufacturer advertised their warranty that way and you paid for the car with that warranty (which would be as hideously expensive as high end fly rods, I think) then you would be right to file the claim. It is a business expense that is factored into the price of the product and you pay it for when you make your purchase.
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    rainbow,

    What makes you think that the auto manufacturers haven't put into the price the potential cost of 'recalls'? Or, that they've added into the cost for lawsuits arising from the likely failure of some feature that would be millions of $s to make safer? Heck, just look at GM.

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