Clear Cure Goo- Thin is Junk!

After test-driving Clear Cure Goo there is no way I would do the dis-service of suggesting anyone but that junk!!!!!!!!!!!!! The syringe design is absurdly difficult to use, even for someone with large, uncompromised, strong hands. The needle constantly plugs and clearing it creates a mess.

There is no comparison between Clear Cure Goo and UV Knot Sense... I will take the Knot Sense every time. Of those that I have spoken to that personally used Clear Cure Goo they all thought it sucked compared when compared to Knot Sense. To be clear, the glue itself is just fine, it is the delivery system that sucks. The "Thin" is a joke because it is thicker than Knot Sense, though the thick is good for a lot of applications and better than Knot Sense in some small ways... But not enough to be worth fighting the syringe.

The instructions suggest removing the dispenser tip each time and that is probably a good idea, but I found the tube plugging between uses... and that was just minutes apart.

There was no difference in apparant curing rates between them other than the result of the light used.

I built a couple spoon flies and coated the backs on several scuds, used it as head cement, built saltwater bait fish flies, used it on Thunder Creeks, coated epoxy minnows, built epoxy coated bead flies, covered metal beads to create cool eggs on Egg-Sucking Leeches... and probably more.

And for the record I have absolutely no financial involvment with either company and no previous dealings of any kind to taint the matter.
art

I've never tried clear cure goo myself ... a bit too pricey, been using liquid fusion for the last couple of years and wouldn't use anything else.

Just my $0.02 worth :)

Mike

my local shop will not carry it after the first batch they ordered was sold, based on customer reviews.

Glad to see these posts....I was close to trying the squeeze bottle version....wonder if it's delivery is better?

mickalo...I've been using the Fabric Fusion too....but find it shrinks in volume. Have you experienced that?

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Originally Posted by ducksterman

Glad to see these posts....I was close to trying the squeeze bottle version....wonder if it's delivery is better?

mickalo...I've been using the Fabric Fusion too....but find it shrinks in volume. Have you experienced that?

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I use Liquid Fusion, not Fabric Fusion, never tried that.

Mike

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Originally Posted by flybugpa

my local shop will not carry it after the first batch they ordered was sold, based on customer reviews.

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Shop I bought it from is coming to the same conclusion...

I actually been using CCG and have not had a problem with it. Liquid fusion is good to but will require a drying motor til they set up. Epoxy is best still overal but the convience is UV products. You are correct that styringe is a PITA though. I be getting brush on stuff once I exhausts the current stuff I have.

I don't use the dispenser tip with the syringe delivery system. The CCG is too thick, for the needle that they supplied. I also use a curing light that I get from a distributor that cures CCG faster with less tack.

The problem is not the CCG. I wish it came with some directions. First of all, do not use the syringe to apply CCG to the fly. It is better applied using a secondary container to appy CCG like

Squeeze the CCG into a glass container wrapped with aluminum foil to protect the CCG. Then use flat tooth picks to apply the the material. Cover the CCG container with a lid of shaped aluminum foil so the UV light does not get into it while you are curing the flies.

Use the toothpicks to apply the material. You need two toothpicks. Sharpen the tip of one into a point with a razor blade. This is used to apply the material near the hook eye or anyplace where precise application is needed. Uses broad end of the other toothpick to apply the material like a spatula to larger areas, to spread material, or to remove excess material.

I used to use a small pan I formed with aluminum foil as my secondary container. But then I found a small glass cup at Sally's Beauty supply.

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Originally Posted by Silver Creek

I used to use a small pan I formed with aluminum foil as my secondary container. But then I found a small glass cup at Sally's Beauty supply.

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Or maybe a shot glass??

Brad

And all of that to avoid using Knot Sense which comes in a conveient dispenser? And with the cost of CCG the idea of dumping a bunch into a cup for a quick job, the loss from the stuff that sticks to the foil... And lots of other reasons...
art with head shaking...

Nothing sticks to the foil. The foil is just to keep light out of the container and it goes just over the lip. It does not line the glass.

Cover the glass between uses and CCG won't set, so I just keep using it until I need to add some more.

CCG come in many formulations, even a flexible option and 3 thicknesses. Use whatever works including knot sense if that is your choice. I'm just saying the way I use CCG and it works for me. If you are able to control the knot sense so that you get the right amount in the right thickness in the right place all the time, that is great. I don't think I could get it around and over the thread, but not in the eye of the hook using the the tip of the knot sense tube. I'd still have to sharpen a tooth pick end to apply it.

For the fly below, I don't think you can coat just the fly and thread to the hook eye and no more with the knot sense squeeze tube. You'd still have to essentially "paint" the fly whether it was CCG or knot sense. So it depends on what you are tying.

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I bought the tip pack when I ordered directly from CCG so I dont waste the all goo in a secondary container. If I were to do that I would simply use one of my 35mm film containers to do so but hadnt need to yet. Practice and patience is the key to doing it right without a lot of waste but I will get the brush on stuff the next time though.

I've been using the CCG Thick, Thin, Flexible, right out of the syringe tubes/tips, and also one that uses a bottle with a brush in the cap. I haven't had any issues with any of it, never a plugged syringe tip. When I'm done using it for the day, I just pull the syringe plunger out slightly, so any glue in the tip gets pulled back into the tube, then I put the red rubber cap back on the tip. I've been using the same tubes/tips for over a year now.

I agree with the difficulty issue on the CCG Thick, and Flexible... WAY too hard to get out of the syringe and much too expensive for my trouble... I'm a knot sense person myself also. Especially since they changed their large bottle from a tube... I had too many tube splits with the large tube.
Michael