I sort of feel like I am pestering everyone with all of my questions, but you have all been very helpful, and after all, all you have to do is not read any of my posts so… I am going to keep pestering besides my wife is glad I have someone else to bother.
Lets say the day is done, you are back at the car getting ready to put everything up for the trip back home. The rod and reel I have were given to me, they are a Shakespeare SigmaSupra 8’ 5-6 wt rod and a shakespeare 1094 reel. The rod is a 3 pc. and I have a case for it. When I have been takeing it apart to put up after practice, I have been leaveing the leader tied to the fly line. The leader that it came with looks like regular fishing line and is not in very good shape, but I figure that is good enough for me to practice with. My question is this, do you take the leader off the line before storing it? Jack sent me a couple of great furled leaders, (thanks Jack!) and I don’t want to screw them up. I am afraid that if I wind them up on the reel and store them for a while, they will come out all wound up and not straighten back out. Will this happen? What is the correct thing for me to do? These leaders are ALOT nicer than what I had and I don’t want to mess them up. What about the tippet and fly? Do you take all of that off when you are done, or just roll it up and go home?
With a regular pole and jig, I would just hook the jig on the rod roll it up and go home but I am not sure with this. I tried that the other day but I am not sure how to set the drag on my reel, or even if it has one and the line would not stay tight, thus making a mess. If anyone has a reel like this, I’d greatly appreciate a heads up on the drag, or lack there of. There is a little doodad on the side, but I haven’t been able to get it to do anything. Doodad, that is a technical term, its a little different than a thingamajigger.
As always, all the help is greatly appreciated,
Jason
When I’m doing a lot of fishing, I leave the furled leader and tippet all tied up, often with the fly still atached. I wind the fly line on the reel till the leader just reaches far enough to hook the fly to the hook keeper on my rod, then I break the rod down, and carefully put it into the rod tube like that, being careful to keep the hook out of anything. Then, next time out, I just carefully slip the whole thing out of the rod tube, check my knots, and start casting. I have had some very impressive tangles now and then, but that’s just part of the fun… …ModocDan
…I’ve learned that the most important thing to avoid is leaving rods, line, tippet, leaders, flies, et.al… out in the sun, especially sun shining through any type of window…
Oh, and Jason…No question is stupid, and you haven’t begun to start pestering anyone:)
As far as removing the leader ( furled or not ), I don’t bother. Same for the tippet. Furled leaders, especially those made from thread, have no memory so they definitely will not retain any curl when you next take them off the reel. The tippet may retain some curl, but you should be able to staighten it by just pulling it gently, or using a leader straightner, if you have one.
BUT if the reel, line, and / or furled leader are wet for any reason, it would be well to take them out of the reel case when you get home to make sure they dry out completely.
Do remove the fly since it will more likely survive to the next outing if it is properly boxed, and because if you leave it tied to the tippet you do have a chance of becoming attached to it in a way that you won’t be happy with.
John
P.S. It’s generally pretty difficult to mess up a furled leader. Now, as to the ones Jack makes …
Jason;
You asked a very good question.
The furled leaders I sent have little or no memory so not to worry.
modocdan’s advice is very sound.
The thread furled leader may mildew if stored wet for a long period.
I do something that most people probably do not do; I remove my leader and spin it onto my Monomaster, a waste leader line tool.
I always start every day off with a new leader. The cost is small, considering how much the rest of the trip is costing, so I feel it is worth it. I don’t have to worry about nicks or abrasions and if I hook into a good sized fish it will only be my fault for not getting it in; not the leaders fault.
That said, I do not usually use furled leaders. Those I would not toss away. You can either leave it on your reel or take it off and let it relax during the night for the next days fishing.
I do clean my fly line each night and treat it. With a furled leader you may want to clean it as well to get the waters scum off of it.
Heritage Angler is right!! I follow his sage advise like gospel! When the rod is safely stored in the vehicle then I go about getting out of the vest, boots, waders, etc. How many stroies are there out there about rods left on car tops and left behind or run over?
Another tip: I carry a cheap $ Store floor mat to stand on when changing into or out of my waders.
It occurs to me to share this bit of advice also. I have learned that near the fishing vehicle is where lots and lots of rod breakage happens. Doors, tailgates, size 11 ee clodhoppers, dogs, younguns, and what have you else is there…any or all will make short work of the fly rods we all love… I put my rod away first…first. I have a very safe and secure rack on the top of my truck that will care for three rods fully assembled, leader, tippet, fly and all. It goes there if I’m just moving from one spot to another. Otherwise, all my rods each have a tube for other trips or storage.
Jason;
None of us has responded to your mention of the “Dodad” on the side of the reel! That is a Frabinstat controled by a Kanuten that must be adjusted by a grad from MIT!
Now we are picking on you and I may have to call for a vote from the NBOF to see if you qualify for membership. I need to give them a new target so they will get off my back. Right John Scott!?
I think Jack is a bit confused. I have a Shakespeare 1094. The adjustment on the side is a wickerbill, the Frabinstat is only used on the Pfluegers. Geez !
I am ashamed of you for your ‘butchering’ of those words. First it is, "frabistat, not 'frabinstat. Next, it is a “Kenutin Valve”, not simply a kenutin. The first (4YI) was invented in the early '40’s by Aberchromby Papoofnick, not Jake Fanorteny as is often alleged. Jeeze!
AND WILL BE CONTACTING YOU, WHEN YOU DON’T EXPECT IT!
LORD “HISE” WE WILL DEAL WITH YOU LATER AS SOON AS OUR GOD “DOUGHY JOEY” GET HIS HEAD OUT OF THE OVEN,
THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANOUNCMENT FROM THE NBOF! AND SCHOULD BE TAKEN WITH ANY SALT GRANUAL. MONTHLY MEETINS ARE HELD THE FIFTH THURSDAY OF EVERY ODD MONTH AT “O-TUBERS” FREE FUDGE AND POP PROVIDED:p
And to think, I always thought the difference between a doodad and a thingamajigger was that a doodad had left handed threads. I do realize of course that a thingamajigger is similar to a watchamacallit, but of course the watchamacallit is longer on the long end while being slightly shorter on the short end. I had no idea at all that a doodad was also the name of a member of the NBOF. In fact I am quite certain I have never heard of the NBOF and can only assume that it stands for National Bunch of Old Farts? An organization that I am sure, I would be proud to be a member of. Especially after the better half fixes pinto beans for supper.
OOOO BOYY!!! HungNTREE you had better bee wary, you have arroused the hackles of the nation of Ohio!!
VERY WELL DONE!!! OH, You are welcome to retreat to here, the WILDS of Wyoming, if it should be required. There is an extra bed in my house for your use.
As you can see, there are no dumb questions, only dumb answers.
My buddy learned the hard way about puting the rod away first. He did get lucky, the person who found it on the ground knew who had been parked there, and knew him.
The White and Norfork rivers here in Arkansas have started to turn off the generators so there is wadeable water for those who don’t mind fishing in cold weather.
The Shakespeare 1094 has a simple on/off clicker not an adjustable drag, but it does have a ?rim control? spool, which lets you apply drag by putting pressure on the rim with your fingers if you want to fight a fish from the reel.
Turning the click on, if it isn’t already, would probably be a good idea to prevent the reel from overrunning when you strip out line to cast and will prevent some snarls. It?ll also give a little resistance to a fish to pull against, again to prevent overruns of the fly line.
To turn the clicker whozits on or off, you have to do a little tinkering so it’s best to do this at home and not streamside so you don’t lose any parts.
Remove the spool from the frame by pinching in the little silver thingamajig in the inner ring near the Shakespeare label (on the side of the reel with the handle). The bigger silver thing near it is a counterweight to the handle and just sits there. You should be able to remove the spool with the fly line on it, or just strip off some fly line to pass it through the reel frame until you can.
Once you take the spool off the reel look for the small brass triangle and the clicker wire.
Turn the triangle so the point faces to the right.
Using a small flat head screwdriver, remove the clicker wire and flip it in the opposite direction.
Replace the clicker wire. To activate the click drag, turn the triangle point toward the top of the spool.
Now turn the reel in the right hand direction. Go fish.
I want to offer my most sincerest and heartfelt apology to the NBOF and the great state of Ohio. I assumed from the way this thread was going that the B in NBOF should have been followed with an S, as in BS. Please forgive my ignorance, after all, I didn’t even know the difference between a doodad and a diddlywomp until a few days ago.
And in all seriousness, thanks for the help guys,
Jason
…ModocDan
—sagefisher—
