I can’t tell from the website.
I know it’s not true rotary, but is it rotary or fixed head?
-Steven
I can’t tell from the website.
I know it’s not true rotary, but is it rotary or fixed head?
-Steven
Fixed head, i have three of them. All different vintages, although they weren’t called Xuron back in the day, Thomas Vise.
Thanks. That cuts my interest significantly.
Addition, not criticism,
Not quite fixed head these days. The present version has a thumb screw which allows the jaws portion to be rotated 360 degrees. This is, however, quite cumbersome and frankly of no practical use
I have used a Xuron for a couple years in the eighties (bought off Eric Leiser’s Rivergate store for a whopping USD 37.50!) and it is a solid design - one of the dark horse offerings, good quality at a reasonable price
Cheers,
Hans W
I have several of them.
If you don’t tie rotary (as most with rotary vises do not), it is a great, indestructible vise.
Hans,
The 360 movement you mention is on the " deluxe" version, while the std version does not have that.
The deluxe version has been around for many years.
Funny, as I recall, when I got my first Xuron, there were really only a handful of premium vises:
Regal, HMH, and Xuron.
It is a fixed head - except for the deluxe version. It is on a ball socket which allows swinging the entire head all over. It is like a floor gear shift on an old car if you follow.
So kind of like a Regal? Except if Hans is right, the tier has to loosen a thumbscrew and then re-tighten it (at least that’s what it sounds like). That’s not happening in this life, not for $160.
Steven,
Perhaps still in your lifetime…
Do you understand what I was trying to explain?
The bottom of the curved shaft has a ball. The base has a “hole” to trap the ball. You adjust the tension to fit your comfort. You can then tie and move the entire shaft like a floor mounted stick shift lever to get all sorts of views and angles of the jaw/fly…
The ball allows you to adjust the angle and/or to tilt it front-to-back. It does not rotate the head separately. On the old Xuron the head is held on by an Allen-head set screw. It’s my understanding that on the new Xuron the set screw has been replaced by one you can loosen by hand and then rotate the jaws and re-tighten it in the desired position.
I like its simplicity but I would need someone to explain to me why I would spend $160 for the Xuron when I can get a Peak or Anvil true rotary vise for ten dollars less.
Jesse,
The standard Xuron is 129.
The thing the Xuron has going for it is the quality of the build and the paucity of moving parts.
It’s not for everyone, but is for some…
Plus,
If it was good enough for Eric Leiser, it might be good for lesser tiers.
I’m not a salesman for them as I tie primarily on my Jvice, but I think it is a relatively unknown alternative vises which deserves consideration.
Okay, as they say down on the farm “Whatever cranks your tractor.”
I would imagine Mr. Leiser would have been a great tyer with a pair of needle nose vise grips.
Well, it was not only the vise that Eric Leiser used but so did the Darbees. In fact, Harry Darbee helped improve the original design, sold it from his shop and the vise was often refered to as the ‘Darbee vise’. Jimmy Deren also sold the vise from his Angler’s Roost shop.
To qoute Uncle Jesse: “I would imagine Mr. Leiser (et al) would have been a great tyer with a pair of needle nose vise grips.” Yes indeed! They didn’t need no stinkin jvise.
Pardon me, what is a “stinking jvise”???
One that was used to tie skunks?
It’s called sarcasm. By the way, you might want to spell check “Jvice”.
Now how about changing your postscript? Otherwise some reading your posts might think you’re pimping for the manufacturer.
Allan,
There’s really no reason to be sarcastic. I don’t think that is appropriate.
For your information, the vise I prefer is a Jvice and that IS the correct spelling. The spelling of “vise” in other countries, most notably, perhaps, in the UK, often use the spelling “vice”.
I have no financial relationship with the maker in S. Africa other than sending funds to him for his great products.
That Is enough!!
Please do not make me clean out the sand box.
So, to see the backside of the fly, I swing the shaft around? How about the underside?
The guys at St. Simon Outfitters, assuming they care, might think about making a video and putting it on their website.
Denny,
No Problem.