Well, I suppose it was bound to happen. I have finally been burnt by the boards. I responded to a great deal on a decent piece of equipment. All the previous transactions conducted by this individual seemed pretty straight forward and all partys sounded pleased. So I sent my check which was cashed immediately. For the next two months all I got was the run around and a bunch of false promises. All I have to show for it is a general distrust and a new hole in my pocketbook. So, do I call this individual out or do I let sleeping dogs lie? He has not posted since this all started. At least not inder his previuos user name. Just looking for some advice. Thanks in advance.
rvr_lvr,
Burned by a FAOL member??
You can (check with the admin first) imho post NAMES, Adresses, Copies of e-mails and communications.
If you can document it, get the word out!!
“Let sleeping dog lie”, … Only after I back up over it with my pickup !!
If you can’t find posts, … contact Admin and they can check IP adresses from th eold user and match it to new users.
If the transaction is over a certain amount, … you can call out the Dawgs and go for Felony instead of small claims (in the US and Canada, a CITIZEN can lay charges in the name of the state).
You can send his “profile” to Pay Pal, E-Bay, Creditors with a friendly “Warning” about unscrupulous practices.
You can reverse track the check to his bank and have YOUR bank send a notice of “potentially illegal” activities, … that’ll get his bank on his heals.
If he has promised to send it by US postal service, … send all the info to the Post office and they’ll go after him for Mail Fraud.
(and if you really want to srew him, … e-mail me, … I’ll send ya’ some real tricks 
)
Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
[url=http://pages.videotron.com/fcch/:b0ebc]Fishing the Ste-Marguerite[/url:b0ebc]
rvr,
If you have the documentation, by all means post what you have with the persons name, item, costs, etc. Aside from getting some anger out of your system, other people will be forewarned about that person and he’ll likely find himself persona-non-grata around here.
Allan
It was only $40 and I almost feel petty about starting this thread to begin with. I guess I was just thinking every crook starts small and moves up until he gets busted. He hasn’t been back so hopefully he will stay away. I emailed the admin so we’ll see. Unfortunately I deleted all his messages because I was so ****** off. All I have is a copy of the cashed check. So I guess I screwed myself on that one. We’ll see what happens.
Matt
Matt,
Name names. Detail it. NO ONE should be allowed to take advantage of someone else for any amount. Let the rest of us be forewarned. Let him know he won’t get away with it.
Betty
Trouts don’t live in ugly places
I’m with Chris, Allen, Matt & Betty. Bare that thief to the public. If all that I read in your first message is as it seems to me, then you don’t owe the miscreant any sympathy. Nail him to the wall.
Silvertop
Oh Hey Rvr_lvr, …
If you’re like 99% of the folks on a 'puter, … you deleted the e-mails, … but you didn’t “empty” the trash folder.
Take a look. If you’re using Thnderbird, Outlook, LotusNotes, Pegasus or Netscape, … they all “Move” messages to the trash, … and most don’t “empty trash on exit”.
p.s., … 40 bucks!!, … that’s quite possibly the idea of this bloke. Go small, … no one will complain. 'magine if he/she/they do this to a hundred users, … adds up quickly. A kid stole a bicycle in the neighbourhood here, … he got 2 days in juvi and 200 hours of community service.
Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
[url=http://pages.videotron.com/fcch/:ab10b]Fishing the Ste-Marguerite[/url:ab10b]
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rvr-lvr did contact us, but he provided NO information about this person, what the item was, the name, or anything…I’ve asked him to provide what he has and we will try to help. I have no problem with posting the persons name and address here, I’m sure we can backtrack a phone number too. This is not acceptable.
LadyFisher, Publisher of
FAOL
Post it…Your way to kind Mr. Castwell…way to kind…To give the person the benifit of the doubt…Over 2 months…I’d nial his butt to the wall and not think twice,I for one am more than suprised that an FAOL MEMBER…could/would do such acts to anyone…let alone a fellow member…
Even if he does make things…well…He can’t in my eyes make right at this point…
I Still want info as I don’t want to deal with this person in the future for sure…Bet I’m not alone in that thought…
“I’ve often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before” A.K.Best
“Wish ya great fishing”
Bill
Bill;
I think that JC is trying to help rvr_lvr get his money back. If JC were to post the name the guy would have no reason to give it back. JC is fighting fire with fire.
Just my take
Harold
Harold,
Isn’t there a word for what you’ve described?
Allan
I have had cashiers and attedants get me for thousands of dollars a week. Also helped send at least one crooked manager to jail. I can tolerate a lot of things but not stealing. When the situation has run it’s course please post the theif’s name and toss them off the site for life.
Eric “nighthawk”
When asked how he felt during his first American space walk Astronaut Edward White responded “I feel red, white and blue all over”.
Allan
Yes there is.
Your point?
Harold
It truly is a shame. I also think it should be made public. Many of our family hereare on other boards, so knowing who to avoid in the future would seem to be helpful.
Mike
Harold,
I know what JC is doing now, What I want to know is,Is he planning on doing the RIGHT thing in the future…there in lies the question…
Harold,
My point is simple. If any person is positive he/she has been treated badly by a particular company or person, post it without any fanfare, intrigue or subtle warnings. Identify the individual or company and the situation. If you’re not sure whether you’ve been treated unfairly or duped, say nothing until sure. This BB is for both positive and negative comments about situations. Why does it seem we have no problem making positive comments about companies and people, have no problem making a negative comment about companies but no one cares to identify an individual whose actions we should be wary of?
Again, the poster must be positive he/she has exhausted all means and taken all appropriate actions. Posting something negative is a weighty responsibility.
Allan
Allan:
I agree with you 100 percent. I think rvr_lvr is doing that and so is JC.
Harold
Point well taken JC,And I was not questioning your methods…just rehashing things for the benifit of others who seem to think I was’nt able to gleam the basics from your post…
I once got a speeding ticket so I DO know the law. One must have “hard evidence”( receipt, contract, acknowledgement,check with specifics above endorsement) before posting a potentially libelous claim. The perp could say that the check was for some some verbal information about fly tying or some such stuff. His proof of slander would be the posting of his info and alleged misdeed on a public forum such as this. Rvr_lvr, if you have no paper trail for this “transaction” consider it a $40 lesson. In the event this fellow posts again, you can let us all know by replying to him with " I sent you a check for $40 for some merchandise 6 months ago and never got it. Whats up?" I’m sure we’ll get the message.
Mark
PS: I am told by other legal minds ( more speeding tickets than I) that publishing names as in this case CAN be made by the parties to the dispute but also not without possible consequence. The slander suits usually occur when a third ( deep pocket) party publishes " unsubstantiated" slanderous statements.
I’d rather be in Wyoming!
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I wonder if it is the same individual, that I got screwed for $315. I offered to trade. Sent the Item to be trade and he didn’t want it. So then I decided to purchase the Item. Send a money order and it was cashed. I was told that the items were mailed. I e-mailed and no answer. I snail mailed and no response. I went to the police and gave them the information. They contacted him and he said he would suffer the loss and send me the money. Claims the merchandise was lost in the mail. I never received any thing. I also contacted the police again and he said he would send a cashier’s check. Claimed it was mailed. So far I still have not received the merchandise or the check. The police told me if he didn’t response the last time that I would have to go to civil court.
I turned all the information I had over to the postal inspectors and so far I have not heard from them. This started in Feburary. The excuses sound like maybe the same person.
Dean
“A legend in my own mind”