Western Snowpack 2017 (so far)

Thanks Walter,
I keep looking for new videos of your tying. Are you posting any recently???

Thanks,
Byron

Thanks Walter,

I miss your tying videos on the Parks Website. Are you planning on continuing to do tying videos?
Thanks,
Byron Haugh

A bit of snow on the Tendoys today (to illustrate how changeable the weather was, these pics were taken about 5 minutes apart)

Baldy Mountain, on the south side of the Pioneers, got a dusting this afternoon.

Regards,
Scott

Byron:

I may be doing so this coming winter. Right now I’m so busy tying flies for the shop, doing the shop website, administering the guide service, etc. etc. that I just don’t have time. In terms of return on time invested I get a lot more business-wise out of occasional magazine articles and my books. If I want the fly tying vids to really help me rather than just be enlightening to people, I need to get them out once a week. The other issue is that production values have gone up drastically… I would probably need to get a second camera for the “tier-side” angle and spend some more time learning how to cut together video. As they are, my editing is pretty basic.

One thing I won’t do is ever make a speeded-up video with no narration and annoying royalty-free music. :slight_smile: I generally skip ahead during videos I personally watch, step to step, but having the narration for the people who need/want it makes tying vids infinitely better to my mind. It’s not like people can’t skip ahead if they want to when the video is long.

Walter and Byron,

Why don’t you guys start up your own thread, okay? Take it over to the tying section where it belongs.

Thanks,
Scott

And now, back to your regularly scheduled production…

I always enjoy seeing your pictures, and reports, Scott. Thanks.

You didn’t happen to note the temperature change when you took those pictures 5 minutes apart, did you? I’ve sometimes noticed a 20? change while driving just a couple miles in Paradise Valley into an approaching storm.

John,

Thanks. My truck doesn’t have an ambient temp gauge (which would be nice to have when towing up here - if it’s below freezing and the roads are wet, I’ll loosen the sway bar); may have to bite the bullet and install one. It was pretty chilly at the top of Monida Pass but I think it was above freezing further down where I took the pics since there was water in ditches along the highway. Ran into a series of strong snow squalls when I turned up Hwy 287 towards Bannack but they blew thru quickly and by the time I got over Badger Pass to the campground it was 40 and sunny. Typical MT spring weather - if you’re not happy with it, wait 15 minutes and it’ll change.

Regards,
Scott

Let’s see - we have an easterner tourist chiding a couple westerners over their friendly exchange on a thread about the western snowpack.

This is certainly one of the most laughable posts I’ve seen in the ten years I’ve been following the BB.

John

Almost as laughable as your hot spotting post to my trip report back in 2013,

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?50026-Dodging-the-Runoff-(Day-2)-TR

which you’ve conveniently deleted, plus this tirade against Doug Korn, who, unfortunately, doesn’t post here nearly enough any more (the same could be said for Kelly Glissmeyer).

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?47543-video-Korn-s-Spent-Wing-Spruce-Moth/page2&highlight=Spruce

As far as being a “tourist”, I am not a Montana resident, yet, but I do spend 6 months a year out here. Save your pompous attitude for somebody that gives a sh.t.

Regards,
Scott

Now we have a couple easterners talking about truck equipment on a thread about western snowpack.

Where will it end ? Where will it end ?

John

P.S. Still pretty touchy, heh fellow.:sad:

Wow. A hot-spotter getting on someone for being from the east. I’m crushed.

Regards,
Scott

One of the more interesting posts I’ve run across on a fly fishing website forum, Westfly, was made during a discussion of “hot spotting.” I wish I knew who to attribute it to, but I don’t, so I can’t, but to quote it -

“Some folks have a sense of scarcity, and some folks have a sense of plenty.”

When I was doing fishing reports regularly, I think it ended up being something over 300 reports over a period of several years, I expressed my sense of plenty by routinely identifying the river / stream / creek I was fishing along with other information on what worked with what results.

“Hot spotting” seems to be a term mostly used by people with a sense of scarcity. I’m sure people who have a sense of scarcity have their reasons for having it.

As far as Doug’s thread on spruce moths goes, he and I had a very positive and pleasant exchange ( several actually ) after we discussed how limited in time and space that “hatch” is.

As far as Kelly goes, he couldn’t handle a little poke in his habit of exagerating stuff and took off in a huff. He could have laughed it off and stuck around. He chose to do otherwise.

John

P.S. I used to post regularly for the benefit and enjoyment of the Bulletin Board members, not to make a permanent record for the benefit of the general public who might visit occasionally. When the Bulletin Board devolved to the point that very few members were initiating discussions and / or participating, I pretty much bowed out, and deleted a lot of posts.

When you post about waters you fish and you want to mention the names, fine and dandy. When you jump on my thread and spout off names of waters that I chose not to, that’s hot-spotting, plain and simple; we even call it that back east and it’s just as unwelcome there as it is here in Montana.

I’ll wax poetic about big names like the Missouri, Madison, Yellowstone all day long; everybody knows about them and everybody fishes them. What I try not to do in a public forum is talk about waters that can’t handle a whole lot of pressure due to size, ecosystem constraints, etc. Most of the little blue lines I fish wouldn’t rate as destinations on anyone’s scale (although I did take my wife’s cousin, who lives on one of those famous rivers out on one last fall and he had a blast pitching dries to little cutts and brookies); the last thing they need is someone broadcasting their names.

Regards,
Scott

Interesting how a tourist can speak for all the folks in Montana. As a resident, I can assure you than many of us do have a sense of plenty. Of course, some residents also have a sense of scarcity. I think that sense of scarcity has been exacerbated by the number of people from out of state who come here to take advantage of what we have.

I think most fishermen, whatever state they’re from have the same opinion of hot-spotters.

Regards,
Scott

I wouldn’t know about that one way or the other. If you actually have any studies or surveys or other evidence to back up your feelings, I’d certainly like to take a look at it.

I will say that my own experience fly angling has consistently been enhanced by folks sharing information on places to fish, flies to use, techniques that are successful, and a general friendliness and good natured approach to others on the water. Maybe that is just karma.

In the meantime, keep up your good work on the Fly Tying Forum. The pix are exceptional and I’m confident that a lot of folks get a lot of enjoyment and some good tying tips or ideas from the flies you present there.

Sharing knowledge is a very important aspect of flyfishing/tying and the interweb is an excellent tool for that. Blithely using that tool, putting potentially fragile resources under duress, seems counterproductive.
Thanks for the kind words on the flies; still hoping more folks join in.

Regards,
Scott

A few more shots from yesterday’s sprint to the finish

Pioneers (east side)

Tobacco Roots (Beaverhead Rock in the foreground)

Highwoods (I think; out of sequence but looks right)

Anacondas

Missions (dropping in to St. Ignatius)

Low tide on Flathead Lake (apologize for the bug buildup on the windshield)

Ran out of light for the rest of the drive. Here’s Big (now called Whitefish) Mountain today

Ski season closed there last Sunday; not for lack of the white stuff.

Regards,
Scott

Thanks for sharing Scott! That’s only a few hours drive from my home and I get there as often as possible!

Scott -

For some reason, as I was scrolling down through your pictures the song “Coming home” kept running through my mind.

Perhaps it was because I’d been listing to Jackie Evancho sing this song over and over the past couple weeks. More likely it was because I feel the same way as I suspect you do when you’re driving through Montana (irrespective of where we might live for part of the year)…“I’m coming home. I’m coming home. Tell the world I’m coming home…”

And, when I finally get to my final destination in Montana, one of my friends who has lived there her entire life always greets me by saying “welcome home”.