Wasatch Mitch's Bobbin Whirler

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While I was at the Oregon Council FFF?s Fly Tyer and Casting Expo in Albany, I did buy a new tool for dubbing. Wasatch Custom Angling Products came out with this:

http://www.flytyingtools.com/webpages/tools/bobbin_whiler_mitchs.html

I have yet to watch the instructional DVD. I will do that then give the Mitch?s Bobbin Whirler a try. The hook you see on the side of the bobbin extends out and grabs the thread to form the dubbing loop.

Larry :smiley: —sagefisher—

Sage,

I’ve been looking forward to seeing some of their new products, including that one. Let us know how it works.

REE

There was a thread on this a while back.

I was at the same show and also bought one of those bobbins. I haven’t had a chance to try it yet. Looks like it should be quite handy. The only problem I see is you may need to rotate the vise out so the bobbbin hangs off the edge of the table when spinning long loops.

Ron,

I will watch the DVD and give it a spin tomorrow. :wink:

Will let you know how well it works.

Larry —sagefisher—

I posted a report on it over on Westfly a couple months ago, but their search function sucks, so sorry, no link. I hope anyone who was at the Expo’ got a chance to watch Mitch demonstrate the tool at the Wasatch booth.

Despite the scepticism it met with in the beginning (including my own) , tyers are reallizing just how handy it is with a little practice. I’m using it to mix ostrich and peacock herls for bodies on small emerger patterns, and ribbing over flash on still water patterns. It makes those two very brittle materials quite durable.

Bill

heres a link with fotos on how to use it

http://www.westfly.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=375490&page=4&fpart=1

what i object to is the $30 price tag for something that a bent up paper clip and a dubbing loop can do for practically free.

just my opinion, yours will be different.

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What i object to is the $30 price tag for something that a bent up paper clip and a dubbing loop can do for practically free.

I agree --Looks nice’, expensive and I’m sure it works, but I made mine with a 6 inch stiff brass wire.

Am I missing something?

Isn’t this something that can be done with any dubbing loop technique???

Yes you can do it with a the usual dubbing loop techniques. The point of the tool is to make it easier an more convenient to do certain things. With the tool you don’t need a separate dubbing twister and you don’t have to work around the hanging bobbin.

If you wish to make your own out of paperclips and bailing wire, go for it. Mitch and Wasatch have gone to the trouble to work out the bugs and produce a nice tool. That is worth something to me.

To each his own…I like using a separate dubbing tool and a rotary vise…no problem working around the bobbin…in fact if I remember correctly Al Beatty demonstrates wrapping both the dubbed loop and separate thread at the same time in his rotary DVD…[see the other thread where I referenced that there are rotary techniques other than the basics].

Many ways to skin a cat:P

JAYATWORK—Yes to each his own. No said anything about using bailing wire and you must not have been around long enought to have seen and used a twister made from a paper clip. A spinning dubbing twister tool cost $1.99 and as I said one can be made out of a stiff brass wire. As far as the bobbin being in the way,thats what we have bobbin rests for. BILL

We digress a little but here’s a little trick from the Mike Holt DVD…so simple and obvious it’s one of those “duh” things.

Wrap your thread forward and then wrap it in place as many times as you anticipate wrapping the dubbing loop [or whatever] forward…wrap in the opposite direction as the thread and the thread unwraps as you wrap/rotate forward.

[QUOTE=ducksterman;217932]Am I missing something?QUOTE]

Yes.

Not everyone uses a rotary vise. In fact some actually prefer not to use them, if you can imagine their foolishness…sigh. They use the outdated technique of winding the bobbin around the hook shank instead of spinning the vise. Crude, yet effective, like using a paperclip to make dubbing loops instead of a well crafted and designed tool.

Of course there are many ways to employ a dubbing loop. This tool is one more, and is a pleasure to work with, but obviously not for everyone.

Bill

Dyna King wants $30 for their bobbin rest, that could be made from a coat hanger. :wink: Actually like Caddisman I am mostly a non-rotary neanderthal and a bobbin holder would be even more in the way.

The bobbin whirler is the only Wasatch tool I own because they are generally more expensive than eqivalent tools. As far as I know the bobbin whirler is unique at this time. Of course there are lots of dubbing twisters available. I sincerely doubt that the paper clip modification has the same functionality as the Wasatch tool. To each his own.

Bill, you took my question a little out of context. My point originally was that it isn’t the tool that allows one to mix ostrich and peacock /or whatever…it’s the mere fact of using a dubbing loop…with any kind of tool…I’ve seen that implication before… that this particular tool allows one to do those things.

Then of course we get into how someone likes to skin the cat…that’s the fun part.

Before I did rotary I hated that bobbin being in the way …without rotary I probably would spring for the 30 bucks.

for the amount of uses i would get out of a $30 dubbing whirler, i’ll stick with my $.05 cent bent up paper clip. its the end effect that matters not the way you get there.:wink:

Neat!

Looks like a quality bobbin with a clever thought put into it.

This is one of the reasons I love fly tying. The cleverness, tricks, and techniques to fool fish and the extremes, expense or lack there of, of anglers to do so.

Respectfully,
Sean

Looks like a neat tool and a decent, thought-out idea. It has enough mass to spin nicely, carrying the material with it enabling a quick spin and tight dub.

I like it. I’d likely get one if I didn’t already have a heavy, bearing spinner that works well too.

Jeremy.

I have recently bought one of these bobbins and I love it. I like the idea of the thread being wound into the loop as it is spinning locking the materials in on each turn. $30 is a little expensive for a bobbin but it does save me searching for one extra tool on my messy desk. I give it a passing grade even for the price.
Jason