BUT, SOME of the fly fishers are not the best people on the earth or the nicest fuzziest give you a fly outta there box kinda guys…
I have more than once tried to talk to a fly fisher at my local lake and because Im younger they do not take me seriously when I ask them hows fishing…
It really is annoying…And kinda funny at the same time.
I’ve even been talking to people which seemed nice and when I ask em what There fishing with they say FLIES…are u kidding me? What kinda smart @$$ remark is that…
Or, I get the while Im fishing they come up to me and say, Shouldn’t you be in school?(It’s ******* SATURDAY!!!)
On the contrary though, There are many I meet who are nice, and respectful. Willing to give any fly in their box away.
I like those kinda guys.(the majority)
Anyways, I feel better now.
But you make a fair statement…There have been a few who were not as friendly as others…But you’ll have this with any group of Ppl…no matter what that group may constitute… Or… Human Nature my boy…Human Nature…But MOST will be of better Constitution!
Chris,
Your fortunate to own waders because your going to have to wade a river of B.S. on your way to being an Adult. FACE the FACTS!!! Your NOT NORMAL!!! :lol: Your as Sick as the Rest of US!!!
Jack Hise is probably the ONLY Warm & Fuzzy Fly Fisherman I know. :shock:
Chris, Some Good Advice…Talk to Many…Trust a FEW! and if anyone tries to hurt you…KICK them in the Groin…They will then change their Focus.
Don’t trust people that smile a lot. There are creeps out in the world that want desperately to be your friend with hidden motives.
Doug
My son is almost 18, looks younger though, anyhow, I’ve noticed quite a few instances of various people thinking his age makes his needs less important, or think his age makes him less deserving of courteous and timely response. I’ve caught store clerks giving him the kid treatment quite a bit recently.
Guess what I’m saying is I don’t think its just a Fly Fisher thing.
Chris, all kidding aside you will meet all types in this world. The best advice I can give you is to be a good person and treat people the way you would want to be treated, but you already knew that.
yeah i get that treatment at school now. we used to have a principle who was awsome and respected everybody but then he retired las year and we got this new guy whos treating us all like $%&^*%$ KIDS!!! IM DRIVING NOW AND HES ACTING LIKE IM IN *&^%*ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!! ITS SO FRIGGIN ANNOYING! i think the problem seems to be that they dont know how to treat highschoolers and think were the same as middle schoolers and elementary schoolers. so to a lot of older people age doesnt matter. if youre under 18 youre a kid to them. its unfair but its something that you just gotta get used to. however, to the adults who do treat us with respect, THANK YOU. yer kool. its nice to have adult friends who treat you like an adult too. so any way im done rambling for now. you all may proceed with youre lives :lol:
I love that punch line. Very clever…very clever indeed. Keep your sense of humor cuz you’re going to need it to deal with the jug heads that will enter your life. You’ve met a couple already, so you know what you;re in for. Dealing with those arrogant and egotistical people is not limited to adult/youth interaction. Many adults receive the same treatment. Personally, I believe those people to have a psychological imbalance or self-esteem issues. The others are just wasting space on the planet and breathing our air for no good reason at all. It sure sucks to be them!
I have three boys and they have all said the same as you at one time or another, “I want respect” at least I think that is what you are trying to say here.
And I truly believe that is what you deserve to the utmost, is respect.
HOWEVER
The world does not owe you any thing. You owe the world and yourself to do the best you can and be the best you can, and be a good citizen. I think you are well on your way to doing and being that.
There is a large portion of the worlds population that has not learned that fact and may never.
Do not let it get you down, when you are surrounded by lemons make chocolate milk, have a strong back bone and keep doing the right thing.
We true fly fishers may seem weird and all, but it is because we will live for ever in our children and there children eyes. As that is the only way to become immortal, is to have childern.
AND KID you can have any fly from my fly box, just share with my own son and wife OK…
Chris,
You may never get any recognition, awards or trophies in your Life, your rewards won’t be money, adoring neighbors, the Key to the City, it will be the peace and happiness that comes from being CONSISTENT! Have the HIGHEST Standards for yourself and don’t worry about your co-workers, worry about YOU!! You might even have people gossiping about you because you have the NERVE to actually do a good job! Don’t be a people pleaser! You’ve already set yourself apart from the Crowd by being a Fly Fisher and you can carry that determination into your Adult Life.
Example; You have 24 hrs every day to work with.
8 hrs sleeping
8 hrs to go to school and do homework.
7.5 hrs to eat, relax, read, watch TV, tie flies, fish and help around the House.
That leaves .5 hrs to gripe, b–ch, complain, throw a tantrum, get upset at girls etc…
So that’s what you got! Just keep the negative to a minimum, rise above all the crap! FOCUS on the Task at Hand and that is BE HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY!!! It really P.O.'s off Grouches! (One Benefit!) :lol:
Me and everyone else around here KNOW your a Special Person and your going to be a successful Adult.
I may get verbally flogged for this one. But, in all my years of fly fishing, with one exception, every other fly angler I’ve met has been short, if not flat out rude, with me and my group. The only fisherman who are willing to share their flies or even tell you what is working for them are the ones you already know. This may be an unfair generalization and from what I’ve read here does not represent the whole, general population of fly fisherman–but in my experience most guys you meet out on the water are going to tell you that they’re using “flies” or “something buggy” or “everything’s working.”
Quick story:
Went with two of my buddies to fish Schofield Reservoir in Utah a couple years ago in early April. The ice was just coming off most of the lake and it was still pretty cold. The three of us were the first ones there so we split up into three directions to try to find the fishies. We were using two-way radios to communicate. A couple older guys (we were in our early 20’s at the time) launched their toons shortly after us and I was talking to one guy when my buddy radio’d over that he’d found em and just caught 3 bows over 20". I started paddling over and told the guy on way where the fish were. He followed. When we got there the guy asked my friend what they were hitting. He said, “Oh, just about everything.” I was disappointed. When the fishing died down and we decided to move, I got cussed out for tellling the dude to come over and fish with us.
Had similar experiences in Dillon, MT and a fly shop near the Snake River by Teton National Park. Saw it every time I went fishing to my regular haunt back home (anyone who’s fished the Provo knows this well). Oh well. I guess I’ll just have to meet some of you guys here to change my perspective.
Wild One,
You are very correct about needing to fish with the people on the BB. It’s very common for insecure Fly Fishers to be defensive. Best idea is DON’T talk to them. Play it by ear, if they want to be talkative, then fine, but use your eyes and watch their body language. Don’t judge Fly Fishers by how quiet or rude they are because it’s just their operating behavior at the moment. When a person matures they see the big picture better and helping others is more likely. Think about how stupid it is when someone won’t share what fly their using! 9 times out of 10 the person asking doesn’t even have the exact fly! Even if you give someone one of your flies, it doesn’t guarantee that their going to have any luck.
When someone is relaxed, friendly and helpful to you, count your blessings!
Doug
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I, myself, have quite a repertoire of smartass answers. As my father always told me,
“Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.”
I can be very helpful on stream. It depends on the question, who’s asking, how they’re asking, and if I think they deserve an honest answer.
If some yuppie decked out in the latest Orvi$ gear wants to know “What they bitin’ on?”. They’ll get the smartass answer every time.
On the other hand if I get the impression that someone actually could use some honest help, I’m there for them, as long as it takes
In all my many years out there floggin the water, I’d say I’ve met about half and half. I think the nicest overall bunch was back in the early 70’s when my brother & I had a 28 ft. boat moored at Crescent City, CA and we did a lot of trolling, jiggin, and even chartered out to a few groups of sportfishermen. We never went commercial, just dragged lines for salmon, tuna, and halibut. Did a bunch of jiggin for bottomfish. Nearly every other bunch we met out on the ocean was very polite, and friendly. Always willing to tell you where the fish were if they knew, and what they were using. I can’t say the same about inland fishermen, whether they be baitfishermen, lure draggers, or us flyslingers. It’s about half chuckleheads with some misguided thing about keepin secrets, or bein rude and arrogant, and half real fishermen who will share their last fly, panther martin, or gob a worms with ya. My boy and I have been fishin together since he was barely big enough, and we’re the type you’re lookin for. He’s 18 now, and he’ll set ya up with whatever he’s usin’ if you ain’t got one, even if it means givin up his last fly. He’ll show ya where he’s fishin, and might even move over and let ya have his spot. This is how I taught him, and he knows from his own experience it’s the way to be. Him and I have both run into the chumps here and there, and he learned how to deal with them from me too. First off I start out nice and friendly. If they turn up to be puds, I keep right on bein nice, hoping it may rub off. Sometimes it does, sometimes not. If not, I just give 'em a friendly “see ya, bro, good luck” and I say it like I mean it, 'cause I do. There’s always gonna be weenies out there, just have to accept it, and by all means don’t be one…ModocDan
I seem to have a unique perspective here, being 24. I am right between the “kid” stage and being treated as an adult (I still look like I am 16 when I shave). I cannot begin to explain how frustrating it is to go to a restaurant or something like that and get awful service because of that. I can say that I havent run into any bad people on the river, but this is mostly due to the fact that I avoid other people like the plague when I am fishing. I fish in large part for the peace and quiet of it and I find that most of the people I run into (I started my fishing adventures in Massachusetts) either dont feel like talking or creep me out. On the occasion that I do stop for chit-chat, I tend to keep it short and sweet and keep on walking.
So, if you want to keep from having people act like @$$es, just do like I do and avoid them. The good ones will talk to you, especially if they see that you are relatively young.
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