I thought I noticed it in your other videos, but this made it clear…you really don’t tie off the materials in the classic sense, do you? You kind of tie back on the material.
Where’d you learn this? And are you really that comfortable with the durability of this method?
It is very secure, and I am very comfortable with it. It is bomb proof.
Think about it - my first turn of thread traps a ‘U’ of the material, with the tag end facing back, with a second locking turn of thread jamming directly in front.
Minimum number of thread wraps, and maximum security. Secondary, very significant, advantage is that there is never any stub material facing towards the hook eye to cover up.
Where learned? - I noticed it from a tying friend, Hans de Groot, some four decades back and have never looked back.
I agree with Scott, I’ve watched many of Han’s videos, I don’t actual use some of his pattern myself, but the techniques used is an excellent way to tie, almost no wasted, or excessive thread usage or wraps, the use of reverse hackle. One thing that really impresses me is Hans isn’t trying to break a speed record when tying, his videos are very easy to follow and understand.
Thanks for dedicating the video, LOL. I really appreciate the fact that you use minimal thread wraps. One of these days I might experiment and count thread wraps, as well as the time used to tye identical flies using one method and another just to see how they differ. Nicely done.
I’ve another question that perhaps you will answer in yet another video: How would you tye a Quill Gordon? I’m curious about the placement and how you would sequence the materials. I’m guessing that whatever the process, it would be the same for quill body dry flies(?).
How would you tye a Quill Gordon? I’m curious about the placement and how you would sequence the materials. I’m guessing that whatever the process, it would be the same for quill body dry flies(?).
Allan, I do not tie very many of those, and never fish them, but here is a picture of the last one I tied:
Yeah, I figured I was pressing my luck:lol:.
In the photograph of the Quill Gordon, it looks as though the body was tyed using a standard ‘left-to-right’ wrapping of the stripped herl body. Also, no counter or over-wrapping with wire. Right / wrong and do you tye quill bodies in the ‘traditional’ way?
Also, no counter or over-wrapping with wire. Right / wrong
Right.
and do you tye quill bodies in the ‘traditional’ way?
If by traditional way you mean do I wrap quill bodies from bend to eye, then generally that is the case.
I am not clear where you are going with this?
I decide per pattern what I believe is the most efficient way to get to the end result. For quill bodied flies almost always that means the body gets wrapped bend to eye.
I wasn’t going anywhere. No hidden agenda. Just trying to learn how you tyed flies that, in a sense, have a material created segmentation. I thought you might tye these in a ‘bend-to-the-eye’ sequence but wasn’t sure. Wondered if you tyed the herl/quill in where the tye in point was near the eye and then you wrapped it toward the tail, how the fly would look with a reverse segmentation?