Tying in Dry Fly Hackle Techniques

Bob, it is the reverse hackling method.
How about this?

http://youtu.be/bRcN69BXIXo

That would be reverse hackle. :slight_smile:

You can also use that method tying in tip first. Which also can give a tapered collar dependant on the hackle being used.

This is a great thread. I use the reverse-hackling method from Hans’ video. I like the idea of reinforcing the hackle by running the thread through it as you wind the thread back to the eye of the hook. This also gives you a smaller thread head which is something I like to see in my dry flies. Below is a Queen of Waters where the front hackle is done with this technique:

Alberto

when tying in saddle hackle, I usually tie tip end first

Yeah, that’s what I mean by reverse hackling, but it wasn’t what I was talking about.

Sorry, Bob, could you explain again? That is what I understood your description to be.

You were talking about tying in with the butt of the quill tied in under the body of the fly. Correct? That’s how I learned to tie in the royal body. With the hackle tied in under the forward collar of herl.

Bob,
I have always tied the hackle in with butt(s) facing forward. Interesting idea of having them face rearward. One question though. You mention “break” the stem, does that mean “bend” the stem upright? Before wrapping the hackle forward, that is.

I know many tiers place the butt end of the stems “between” upright wings. I always preferred to tie them in to the side of the wings. If tied in between the wings, it might well prevent the wrapping hackle stem from sliding…not sure.

Anyway, interesting alternatives.

The hackle is tied in on the side of the so that the flat of the feather is parallel to the shank. (One on either side of the hook if using two feathers.) When it’s time to wrap, the hackle is bent back toward the, and crimped (“broken”) right at the tie in point. The result is that the hackle stick out like wings on an airplane, but rotated 90 degrees so that the barbs are aligned up and down. They’re now in perfect position for the first wrap. Wraps go forward to the eye.

I only use this method with short hackle feathers; it would be hard with genetic saddle hackle.

I’d take pictures, but I’m recovering from surgery at the moment, and don’t think I can.

When I read you saying “break the stem”, I am envisioning the hackle feather coming loose from the tie in point. I’m sure that’s not what you mean, but why I am wondering if it isn’t more like “bending the stem”?

You would think it would come, but it never has. There’s a definite 90 degree angle. It’s like when tying a feather wing streamer and flattening the hackle stem or jungle cock nail stem with a pliers so that they sit flat – crushed but still attached. You crush it flat with your thumb.

When I was taught the method, it referred to as breaking.

Just tied one the way you describe. Seemed to hackle just fine.