Tying Hooks

okay I am looking into getting more Hooks but I can’t seem to find the right type for the right price.
I need qty and size 100 14 Wet,100 14 dry,100 14 Nymph,50 8 bugger and 50 14 scud hooks. what numbers and company :confused:
oh! I (SHOULD) have about 50 bucks to spend:rolleyes:.
P.S. I can change or take off things if needed:eek:.

I was thinking Mustad but the numbers confuse me LOL

Try the Hook and Hackle Company’s house brand hooks – http://store.hookhack.com/Hook-Hackle-Chemically-Sharpened-Hooks/departments/831/. They come in 100 packs for about $10 per 100. I’ve used them and like them. They are a sponsor of this site too.

http://www.togenenterprises.com/combopacks.html I use a lot of these hooks… As sharp as diachi and realy strong too…

Allen Fly Fishing Company http://www.allenflyfishing.com/ sells a fair grade of hooks in volume. I like their salmon hooks. However, in most cases I use Mustad.

100 14 Wet - Dai Riki 70
100 14 dry - Dai Riki 320
100 14 Nymph - Dai Riki 60 (1xl)
50 8 bugger - Dai Riki 710 (3xl)
50 14 scud hooks - Dai Riki 135

You can find them on EBay for $9.00/100

Regards,
Scott

Dai-riki at www.bluequillangler.com sell for $9.50 to $10 per hundred.
I really like these, especially because of the generous hook gap, and they come in great reusable boxes.

For the past couple of years I have been using these. The odd one may be malformed but usually not more than 1 or 2 in a hundred, which at the price I’ll put up with.
Cheers,
Alan.

Be careful about buying “off brand” hooks, regardless of the price. The same thing goes when buying hooks on Ebay. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it, but just keep your eyes wide open before doing so.

I use Tiemco (primarily), and Dai Riki or Daiichi hooks for almost all of my trout flies. There are others, like Mustad that are also good, but I no longer personally use them.

I have examined samples of some of the “cheaper” off-brands of hooks sent to me by a board member here, and although they looked for all the world like Tiemco, they used a substantially inferior grade of wire for their hooks which I wouldn’t want to trust for the larger trout that I hope to catch from time to time. The hooks were brittle and broke easily. I’ve also bought hooks on Ebay in the past that the seller (a large volume Ebay seller) claimed were Tiemco, but they were not - and were also inferior hooks. I have also seen similar inferior quality hooks being sold by a large fly shop as their store brand (this was not Hook and Hackle, by the way).

Another option are Montana Fly Company hooks; I’ve only used some of their scud hooks but they seemed to be of good quality. Check them out at Kingfisher:
http://www.kingfisherflyshop.com/Online-Flyshop/mfc-hooks

the wet fly hooks are in the streamer selection (?)

Regards,
Scott

I’ll second the Togens hooks, good hooks and sharp. The only thing I wish is they were a darker bronze.

Here’s a link to their 1000 pack assortment - You pick in packs of 100. It’s a little higher than you wanted to spend but for $20 bucks more (don’t forget ship/handling) your getting 1000 hooks.

http://www.togenenterprises.com/catalog/item/4036093/3977448.htm

If you sign up at their monthly specials page they give you a 10% discount.

X2 on the Montana Fly Co. hooks. Good quality, fair price.

Have you looked into the Allen Fly fishing company? http://www.allenflyfishing.com/ I’ve tied on a bunch of their hooks this fall but I haven’t had the time to fish them yet. In-expensive hooks.

Sage advice from John that should be taken to heart. After having been burned by several bargain brand hook manufacturer/resellers over the years (some of them mentioned here), I only use name brand hooks these days. I would second the Dai Riki recommendation for your price bracket, followed closely by Mustad, especially if you can find them at the old prices in the older styles.

As far as hook numbers and types, it is probably time you learn the details for yourself. Tons of sources available via google, but here’s a starting point: http://globalflyfisher.com/staff/scharabun/hookchart/.

I get my hooks from Cabela’s. I think Mustad makes their hooks for them (I could be wrong, but I seem to remember a sales rep telling me that a long time ago).

Check out the Dan Bailey site as they are the importer of Dia-Riki hooks. If you want a shorter stronger nymph hook the 075 is the one I use alot. The other brand that no one seems to mention is Eagle-Claw. They are really strong good quality hooks. I had to use them for a couple of years do to the Nafta BS as I was running a tying operation in south central Mexico. They make another hook that I really like, LO-55M, which is light wire scud type hook that works great for emerger patterns. They have the distinction of actually being made here in the U.S.
I just checked the Dan Baily sight and it appears the 075 hook is no longer offered. Checked my supply and I’ve got more than enough to last me till whenever.
The Eagle Claw LO60 is a great all around dry/nymph hook at $8.00 per hundred at Cabela’s The LO56 is a heavier wire scud hook that I have used For Salmon and Steelies with no problems. In the past my only knock I would have on them was the occasional burr at the point where the eye of the hook closed. They are a really good hook at half the price.

Tom, I would recommend, as do a few others here, sticking with name-brand hooks. I have tried house brands from at least three of the companies mentioned above, and had serious quality control issues. Malformed hooks, hooks that straightened out easily, etc. I use Tiemco for dry(100 or 900, prefereably barbless) and scud hooks (2457 for sinking flies and 2487 for dries), and Dai Riki 700s for streamers. The Dai-Rikis are in your price range, but the others are not.

If you want, and I can still find them, I will send you my store-brand hooks and let you find out for yourself. PM me an address.

I don’t try to save a few cents per fly at the cost of hook failures on big fish (they never seem to fail on little ones).

DG

I buy hooks from Hagen’s (www.hagensfish.com) and from Togen.Yes. I do get some that are not ‘perfect’ in each batch of 500 to 1,000 hooks. But I check each one berfore I tie the fly.These hooks run right in the 4 to 7 CENTS apiece range. I may have to throw out ten from every thousand. At retail, Tiemco hooks can run in the 20 to 30 cents apiece range. I’ll save that money for other needs.I’ve never lost a fish to these hooks nor have any broken while fishing. I even occasionally catch a big fish.They are only fish hooks. How good do they need to be?

I would buy cheap toilet paper before cheap hooks… :wink:

I’ve been interested reading all of the opinions on this topic, especially the comments about house / generic brand hooks vs. name brand hooks. While the anecdotal comments are interesting, I’m wondering if there are any studies or such available?