TV-14 ...Should we kill to tye for catch and release?

Besides by-products from game animals killed for sport and food, I say yes of course, as these starlings…foreign devils everyone… will attest.
:stuck_out_tongue:

What would be the purpose of killing three of those beautiful birds? You eat them? No? You tie a thousand-thousand flies with them? No? God had fun creating them, and for a reason; to eat harmful bugs and invasive seeds. And then you kill them. Doesn’t sit right .

Common Betty do you tye? If so, unless totally synthetic, your tying with material from someone’s kill.
Besides…starlings…english sparrows… foreign vermin…yeah carp too! @ :lol: Give me a break.

You betcha I tie. But there’s no way I could tie all the feathers from those three birds in my lifetime. And while deer, duck, goose, etc can provide sustinance for many people, I hardly think starling fits that catagory.

Life is tough I guess for starlings that infrequently invade my yard. @ :lol:
Actually they ain’t bad eating…better than morning dove cause I hate to kill that American little critter.

I believe that namekagon is well set in his ideas on this subject. If a he wanted an opinion the question should have been “would YOU kill”, not “should we kill”. Here is my two cents worth as there is no right or wrong on this topic.

I believe a person should be able to kill whatever he or she wants to as long as their actions are in accordance with applicable state and federal laws. I am a hunter, fisherman and a fly tyer, but I do not kill any animal strickly for fly tying supplies. The only animals I shoot are eaten by me or others.

Thus, in my opinion both namekagon & Betty are both correct.

Tim Anderson

I’m not positive but aren’t starlings on the protected list?

Yeah but let it known, I didn’t kill em just for flying tying supplies…starling are well known pests…feathers were just a bonus.
There are some birds that ain’t palatable…the coot comes to mind…but I ate these starlings! Yeah!@ :lol:
In response to Lunker…? and I’ll leave it at that!@ :?

:shock: AAAAAACCCCCKKKKKKKK! You did not!! Did you? OMG!! Eeewwwwww! Yuuccckkkk!

I doubt it because this introduced European species takes a toll on the softfruit crop such as cherries and apricots. In the 1960s and 1970s there was a bounty on starlings in my region. 5cents apiece as I recall. Local farmers spend lots of money trying to keep them out of the orchards. Flocks of birds in the thousands can decend on a farm and decimate the cherry crop. They have the bad habit of taking only one or two nips out of each fruit before attacking the next one. The overall percentage of the entire cherry crop may only account for and average of 5% damage per farmer . But if it is your 10 acres they decend upon, your personal loss can be as high as 50% or more. They are shot, poisoned, and trapped all to no avail. The cost of their damage is passed on to the consumer. (You & I )

Ps In case anyone thinks I am against starlings let me assure you that I have a nest of them in the eaves of my house and see no reason to disturb them dispite the fact that they use the hood of my truck for a bathroom. I do not hunt anything that small. If they were bigger and taste good , that would be different.

I never worked at a vineyard but I understand they can do a lot of damage to those crops as well.

They are the most populous bird in our neighbourhood and sooner or later I will come across a carcass and free guilt free feathers.

Betty…if I’d eat this …I’d eat anything and you don’t know the half of it! @ :lol: This is presteamed of course!

Betty,
I think he shot three so he could send you and me each a skin and have one left over for himself…I don’t think he should have to eat them :roll:

The starling was indeed introduced and they are considered a nuisance and there never has been a season on them…can shoot them anytime…certainly not considered endangered…they have been a problem in cities too…

There are reasons why this bird has fly patterns using them…no problem possessing them.

Eeeewwwww! I recognize the fish, and some of the vegies, but I don’t think I want to know what some of the other things are!!

MOST of that stuff is considered a Aphrodisiac :shock:
You NAUGHTY BOY! :smiley:
Doug

Lunker,
I don’t know if you were serious or not, but when I read your reply, I almost threw up from LAUGHING!!!
Thanks,
Doug :lol: P.S. I love the people around here!

I almost threw up thinking of eating starling :shock:

On saturday I was looking at the starlings in my back yard and considdering the pelet gun. So I looked up fly paterns etc.

Starlings were introduced by a person who felt the US should have all the birds Shakespear wrote about.
They are pests that nest in the same places and out compete some of our native birds, including the mountain bluebird. I don’t mind the starlings but the thought of the Bluebird going extinct beceause some Idiot introduced the starling realy ticks me off

Starlings are not federaly protected and if your state doesnt have any law against it, may be shot all year.

Eric

At least you got a laugh. Sparrows and Starlings are excepted.

I for one shall not be dinning at the “Namekagon Bar and Grille”
should it become a going concern( the food did have good color though). :shock:

p.s keep shooting. :lol:

That looks pretty good actually. The dried mushrooms (re-soaked) are really tasty, and the rest looks like spring onions, ginger, red bell peppers, fish (blue gill?) and I’m not sure of the last ingrediant? Is it roe?

Anyway, steamed with a drizzle of oil and soya sauce and this would be a really tasty meal. My wife cooks flounder this way, and salmon is really nice as well. Actuall, any fish turns out well cooked in this manner. I would personally be happy to share a dish.

  • Jeff