Anyone read their book?
I remember when it came out way back when. When I read about their upside down fly, I was really excited. I went to my local fly shop where I hung out a lot with the book in hand
I asked the owner, a friend, to show me how yo tie the fly in the book. He and I worked on that fly for at least half an hour. It involved using mono and a really complicated method
Anyway, I have always tried to figure out a way to achieve the result without the difficulty. In the book, even they say it should be used on the most picky trout due to the difficulty of tying
So, now I am experimenting with the upside down paraloop which I find easier than an ordinary parachute fly
I wonder if anyone else fishes such a fly???
I posted a picture of one of mine in an earlier post
Please let me know your thoughts or personal experiences. Thanks,
Byron
I’m not saying I could tie this, but what about this fly is so difficult? I’ve never tied a parachute anything (and don’t generally tie dry flies for that matter), But I dont see this as any more difficult than a regular parachute or any other hook-point-up pattern for that matter.For example, Clouser’s are not what most call a difficult pattern even with the log wing/tail material getting in the way of the vise jaws.
Hello Byron,
about 25 years ago there were articles appearing regarding the Swedish flies being tied in the “upside down” method. The hooks were manufactured by Partridge. I bought a package or two of the hooks and tied a few flies. Afterawhile reports of increased trout mortality caught on this type of fly was much higher because of the hook penetrating through the roof of the mouth into the cavity of the eye as opposed to hook penetration on either side of the mouth and the softer textures of the trout mouth. I believe the hooks were thereafter discontinued by Partridge. The upsidedown flies of Clouser don’t fit into this catagory because of the anatomy of saltwater species and the tougher structure of the fish mouth. Hope this sheds a little light. I donot use the fliesI tied in the swedish manner and have discardedthe hooks.
I do something similar to the upside down nymphs, I jig my nymphs by using a metal bead for the thorax.
To have the nymph hook to travel with the hook direction reversed, I bend the hook shank behind the eye of the hook (I use 1XL or 2XL hooks), creating a space that is the width of the beadhead.
The down eye on most hooks are at approximately 40 degree angle, so I bend the hook shank at a 45 degree angle, and the insert the bead head on the hook shank for the thorax.
Then when the fly pattern is fished the hook is up and there is less chance for it to snag some underwater debris. Really comes in handy when fishing on the bottom of a stream.
The eye of the hook is at a 85 degree angle to the hook shank, the hook shank is at a 40-45 degree angle off the bottom. And the beadhead bounces over any obstacles on the bottom of the stream.
Try and find a book called Tying Flies The Paraloop Way by Ian Moutter. Besides the addition of a gallows tool to your vice setup and a couple of other hand made tools such as a neck breaker which are illustarted in the book , the tying is pretty straight forward. It does take some practice but with Ian’s wonderful book it should be no problem.
Somehow I didn’t make myself clear. The pattern and method in their book was very difficult! I said that my method is easy. I was referring to the fly they developed in their book 30 years ago which was quite difficult to tie
Thanks though
