Traditional Flies

As a few people asked, yes I do dress traditional flies as well. Here are a few random picks from my seatrout box. They will work for seatrout in rivers, and of course as traditional patterns in lakes etc.

The dressings are given below, right to left;

Practically all the flies in the photos are on size 8 hooks.

These are my dressings, and may differ somewhat from the “originals”.

From left to right;
Jungle Alexandra
Hook: 12 to 6
Tail: Red ibis, ( sub red goose or similar)
Body: Flat silver, ribbed oval silver or silver wire.
Hackle: Natural Black hen
Wing: Peacock sword fibres
Sides: Jungle cock

Freeman?s Fancy
Hook: 12 to 6
Tail: Orange toucan ( sub orange hackle fibres.
Body: Flat gold tinsel ribbed gold wire
Hackle: Bright magenta cock or hen.
Wings: Rolled bronze Mallard with jungle cock sides.

March Brown
Hook: 14 to 6
Tail: Fibres of hen pheasant tail ( or same as hackle)
Body: Well blended hare body fur ( guard hair!)
Rib: Oval gold tinsel, or wire.
Hackle: Dark brown partridge.
Wing: Hen pheasant “quill”.

No-name.

Hook: 10 to 6
Tail: Golden pheasant tippet
Body: Black seal fur, well brushed out with velcro after ribbing.
Rib: Oval silver, or wire.
Hackle: Blue guinea fowl.

Watson?s Fancy

Hook: 12 to 6
Tail: Golden pheasant crest.
Body: rear two thirds red, last third black seal fur.
Rib: Oval silver or wire.
Hackle: Natural black hen.
Wings: Crow with jungle cock sides. ( Original = Tail from Blackcock).

Claret Bumble
Hook: 8
Tail: Red swan ( original had no tail).
Body: Medium claret seal fur
Body hackles: medium claret cock, and natural blck cock wound together.
Rib: gold or silver wire ( Original had no rib)
Shoulder hackle: Blue jay

Butcher
Hook: 8
Tail: Red ibis, ( sub goose or swan or red hackle fibres)
Body: Flat silver ribbed oval silver or wire.
Hackle: Natural black hen.
Wings: Mallard blues, jungle cock sides

Bruiser
Hook: 8
Tail: A bunch of flax blue wool.
Body: Gentian blue wool.
Body hackles: Gentian blue cock, and natural black cock.
Rib. silver wire.

Greenwell?s Glory
Hook: 8
Tail: Tippets
Body: Well waxed bright yellow floss ( turns olive!)
Rib: Oval or round gold.
Hackle: Greenwell hen.
Wings. Grey mallard primary slips.

No-name

Hook: 8
Tail: Tippets
Body: Flat gold ribbed oval or wire.
Hackle: Natural black hen.
Wings: Rolled bronze mallard, jungle cock sides.

No-name

Hook: 8
Body: Black cat fur ( Sub seal etc)
Rib: Oval silver or wire
Hackle: Natural black hen.

No-name

Hook: 8
Tail: Cock ring-neck pheasant center tail fibres.
Body: First half flat gold, second half medium olive seal
Rib: Oval gold or wire.
Hackle: Brown hen
Wings: Hen pheasant primary slips.

Wickham?s Fancy
Hook: 8
Tail: Brown hackle fibres
Body: Flat gold tinsel or lurex
Body Hackle: Brown henny cock (= Soft cock hackle)
Rib: Oval gold or wire.
Wings: Grey mallard primary slips.

Mallard and Claret
Hook: 8
Body: Claret seal fur. ( Mix three clarets!)
Rib: Oval gold or wire
Hackle: Natural black hen.
Wings: Bronze mallard.

Green Peter

Hook: 8
Body: Medium olive and yellow seal fur well mixed
Body hackle: Brown cock
Rib: Gold oval or wire
Wings: Hen pheasant primary slips
Front hackle: Brown hen

Teal Blue and Silver
Hook: 8
Tail; Tippets
Body: Flat silver ribbed oval silver, or wire.
Hackle: Cambridge blue hen hackle. ( The fly in the picture is washed out to a very light blue).
Wings: Teal

No-name

Hook: 8
Tail: Tippets
Body: Black silk
Hackle: natural black hen.
Wing: Black Arctic fox, jungle cock sides.

Coachman

Hook: 8
Tail: Brown hackle fibres.
Body: Bronze peacock herl ( Not twisted!)
Rib. Oval gold.
Hackle: Brown hen.
Wings. White duck secondary, with jungle cock “between” the wings.

No-name
Tail: Red hackle fibers
Body: Red seal fur
Body hackle: Brown cock.
Rib. Oval gold or wire.
Front hackle: Brown partridge

No-Name

Hook: 8
Tail: Orange hackle fibres.
Body: yellow seal fur
Body hackle: Brown cock.
Rib: Oval gold.
Wing: Bronze mallard bunch wing.
Front hackle. Blue jay small.

No-name

Hook: 8
Tail: Cock pheasant centre tail fibres.
Body: Cream seal fur, tight.
Rib: Oval silver.
Hackle 1 French partridge dyed olive
Hackle 2 Orange cock.

No name
Hook: 8
Tail: Tippets
Body: Claret seal fur, well brushed out after ribbing.
Rib: Oval gold
Hackle: Black hen
Wing. Soft brown barred squirrel from base of red squirrel tail.

No-name

Hook: 8
Tail Tippets
Body: first half flat gold, second half black seal fur.
Rib: Oval gold
Hackle: Black hen
Wing. Folded bronze mallard, with jungle cock sides.

No-name

Hook: 8
Tail: Fluo yellow floss
Body: Flat silver
Body hackle: Dark magenta.
Rib: Oval silver or wire.
Wings: Peacock herl tips, jungle cock sides.
Head: Red varnish.

Freeman?s Fancy ( see above )

No-name

Hook:8
Tail: Scarlet hackle fibres
Body: Dark claret seal fur.
Body hackle: Fiery brown cock.
Rib: Oval gold.
Front hackle: Light olive hen.

Peter Ross

Hook: 8
Tail: Tippets
Body: first half flat silver, second half scarlet seal fur, brushed out after ribbing.
Rib. Oval silver or wire
Hackle: Black hen.
Wing: Teal.

No-Name ( basically a red palmer)

Hook: 8
Tail: fluorescent red wool
Body: Red seal fur
Body hackle: red/Brown cock.
Front hackle: Red/brown hen.

Blue Zulu

Hook: 8
Tail: Fluorescent red wool.
Body: Black wool, tight.
Body hackle: Black cock
Rib: Oval silver
Front hackle. Bright Cambridge blue cock. ( Hackle in picture is badly faded)

No-name

Hook: 8
Tail: Tippets
Body: First third flat silver, second two thirds black seal fur.
Rib: Oval silver.
Hackle: natural black hen.

TL
MC

very cool Mike!
do you fish w/ these traditional flies often?
thanks for sharing,
:cool:, aquabone.

My pleasure. Can’t have people thinking I only use plastic, foam, glue, and magic markers! :slight_smile:

Yes, I fish them regularly. There is a basic difference in fishing for anadromous brown trout ( Sea run browns), and Atlantic salmon though, which don’t feed in fresh water, as opposed to many other fish, in that many traditional flies don’t represent anything in particular, ( although some do of course), and fly choice is really just personal whim backed with a little experience.

Over the centuries some patterns have nevertheless established themselves as particular favourites under various conditions.

Nearly all the flies in those photos ( actually I simply placed them on a flatbed scanner) have been fished, and actually caught fish, so some are a little “raggy” or washed out.

TL
MC

Great post Mike! Cool old-style flies. Thanks for sharing these.

Mike,

Lovely, just lovely. Those could be a fly plate from some slick magazine. You say some are raggy from being fished? Nay, I say, those are the ones I like best. Those look like something to add to my collection during the cold winter months. Would a Mustad 3906 be appropriate?

REE

Glad you enjoyed them Ron. You may use any hook you like really. Those in the scans are dressed on various hooks, as these flies have been dressed at various times over a period of many years. Some I dressed over forty years ago. I assume the 3906 will be just fine.

http://www.ezflyfish.com/mustad3906.html

But I would probably go for the 3906B myself, as many of these flies tend to look a little better on somewhat longer hooks ( 3906B is 1X long) but that is purely aesthetics, and I don’t imagine the fish care much! :slight_smile:

http://ezflyfish.stores.yahoo.net/mustad3906b.html

As long as you are happy with the hooks it doesn’t really matter much.

TL
MC

A note of caution! :slight_smile:

Another masterpiece takes shape, as sitting in his lonely room,
surrounded by materials, the angler plots another fishes doom,
Hair of rat, and tail of crow, much reminiscent of a witches brew,
fastened with much care and skill, of natures wares a pattern true.

But poor artifice you say, compared to all the beauteous flies,
knowing this, the angler, still undaunted, to copy them still tries,
even more surprising, than the failure of a perfect copy, still,
the fish will take imperfect ones, even poor copies, fish will kill.

Just as well, for centuries, the fish have fallen to such cunning,
no good reason though to cease, in past successes sunning,
the search goes on, as generations more of anglers still try,
with skill and care and articifice, to fashion yet the perfect fly.

Yet another deadly pattern, is praised and lauded, a sensation,
but even this avails one nought, is one remiss in presentation.
amazing really, such single-mindedness, as struck by Cupid,
which drives a host of men to hunt things basically quite stupid.

Were this not so, then scarce an angler would have caught a fish,
barely a minnow, would have landed dead on some Epicurean dish.
Be not insulted then, when questioned, as to your state of mind,
be grateful that the fish are not too clever, or somewhat blind.

By this same token then, laud not your skill above its worth,
lest this be greeted with derision, and much unseemly mirth,
you caught a trout, and your skills and knowledge are well firm,
but small boys do the same, knowing nought, and with a worm.

Tight Lines! ~ Mike Connor

Mike,

Lovely job. Very nice flies. I appreciate seeing the traditional wet flies like you have tied and put on the board. There is just something special about the old wet patterns. Part of the tradition I guess.

I hope to tie and use more of the traditional wets for what I fish for most, bluegills, this year. I already have a few traditional wets but they are neat enough look at and to carry that I would like an entire box of nothing but them.

I also appreciate seeing the patterns listed.

Thanks!

Thanks and regards,

Gandolf

Great flies Mike; I really enjoy the the traditional, wets. :smiley:

Just tied some Coachman Trudes.

Good morning MC.
GREAT Wets !

Your tie ?
I noticed that on all the flies the hackle used on the throat areas that they were heavy, full and long.

Is this from some standard or your ‘way’ of building, construction of wets ?

Myself I’ve always made my throats only, the max, length reach to the point of the hook and then very lightly constructed, so that there appeared a top and bottom to the fly.

Is there any reason for your way, or is it the look of the old wets, from long ago.

I wonder if anglers are now just rediscovering the wet fly and stopping all this b/s of it must be a dry fly or your not fly fishing ?

Kind regards,
UB

nice flies… glad to see someone else other than meself tying traditional flies… do you tie full dressed salmon as well ?

Yes, they are all my flies. There is no particular reason for that style, it is an old traditional style which I often use. I have various styles I use but the traditional lake and sea-trout flies I use were often dressed somewhat fuller, most especially as bob flies on lakes, and for streamy water on rivers. Actually, although it may not be obvious there are a number of winging styles and also hackling styles in that lot. Most however are full hackled as you say.

TL
MC

No, I don’t bother with full dressed salmon flies any more, for salmon, ( which I very rarely fish for now anyway), I use mainly tube flies.

TL
MC

My pleasure.

TL
MC

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed them.

TL
MC

Glad to hear you enjoyed them.

TL
MC

Lovely looking selection of flies there :slight_smile:

These flies are just awesome! well tied and neat colour mixes. I would truely call it a wonderful collection of Traditional flies!

Jeanne

Nice! Thanks Mike, glad you’re back. You brought me back to reality from bead head tungsten braid antron foam thorax para-emerger sparkle cripples.

Have a great holiday.

Mike

Thanks again for sharing it is truly appreciated!!! Great ties!!

Fatman