Yo,
Anybody know how to tie the “Three second knot”? And have instructions they can share?
Thanks,
Slide
Yo,
Anybody know how to tie the “Three second knot”? And have instructions they can share?
Thanks,
Slide
Slide;
Mind if I ride along on your post? I’ve seen the “No Look” knot tied and the “Eugene Knot” tied using forceps but don’t rembember how to do them (DOH)!!
It’s probably a name given by a fisherman who tied it in 3 seconds. I would suspect that it has another more common name, Like so many other knots do.
Check out this site for a couple of different hemostat knots:
http://flyfisherman.com/videos/hemostat … ndex1.html
I floated the North Platte river this spring with an outstanding guide (Shilo from Stone River Outfitters, Saratoga) He could replace a leader and tie on not one but two wooly buggers in under 20 seconds (we timed him!)
Keep in mind he did this one handed with the fly in his mouth, his free hand was busy rowing the boat. He used a standard clinch knot (8 turns).
It was really impressive to fish with this guy, set a new standard for excellence in my book.
The 3 second knot takes too long! I use the 2 second knot!
I have been using a variation of the hemostat knot using a tool sold by Yager’s flies. Their website shows a similar tool called The Fisherman’s knot tying tool. The one pictured on their website is plastic but they sell a much better one too. If you email them they can get you the right one. It’s made of machined brass and can be used to tie several knots quickly (blood, clinch, nail, surgeon’s). I have used this tool exclusively for years and it pays for itself in saved time and is particularly useful when fishing in cold weather when your hands are stiff and freezing. I have given many of them away as gifts and everyone who has used one swears by them. Check it out. I promise you wn’t be disappointed. Ditchdoc
ditchdoc,
I have given many of them away as gifts …
If I tell you when my birthday is does that mean you will give one to me???!!!
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Thanks for the lead
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ditchdoc
3 second knot. Heck there has been times I can’t get the leader through the eye for 15 minutes :?
I think the standard clinch has been proven to be a weak knot , though easy to use. I think a good knot with about 95% knot strenght would be the Palomar knot which is easy and fast to tie. The only limitation is for when your using large stoneflies or big flies. I used the Palomar knot a lot then switched to an improved clinch but have moved on to something better (escapes me for now). Do a goggle on knot strength/flyfishing and see what you find. My fav has the tippet going through the eye twice, twisting 5x then into that loope by the eye. I seem to recall 97% strength which I believe not to mention the ease of use.
racine that is called the Trilene knot.
Currently I’m pretty much using the non slip mono knot for my stillwater stuff…but agree with racine …I have found the regular clinch and even the improved to be much weaker than the Trilene…of course the Trilene can be a bugger on small eyed flies ![]()
Thanks for remembering. I do like the idea of a fly moving around at the end of the non slip mono but it too is somewhat of a chore. Maybe it’s the way I tie it. One knot I’ve been interested in but have never used is the Turle Knot. But given the non slip mono or the Trilene, I never felt the need to try it.
You guys must be catching some monster fish. I have used the knot tying tool to tie regular clinch knots, and have caught and landed numerous twenty-inch-plus brown trout on moving water in Wyoming, and have yet to lose a fish because of the knot strength. That’s using 5X tippet, and furled leaders to boot. I don’t claim to be an expert on relative knot strength, but I’ve found that if the clinch is tied and dressed properly, it will do, in most situations. :? Ditchdoc
Let’s just say my incidence of loosing flies and fish dropped dramatically when I dropped the clinch knot.
Here is a link to a great knot The “Davy Knot”
http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstre … 10,00.html
With a little practice should take a couple of seconds. 85 to 90 percent preknot strength
Art Scheck in his book [url=http://www.amazon.com/Fly-Fish-Better-Practical-Advice-Methods/dp/0811732169/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-3867395-3410801?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190894484&sr=8-2:b0bf8]How to Fly Fish Better[/url:b0bf8] has a few great chapters about knots. I’m still not done reading it yet myself.
From what I have read so far, I believe he is trying to convince the reader to intentionally make the knot at the hook the weakest knot, for a couple of reasons. One, which is obvious, it is a waste of tippet material if it is the tippet to leader knot that fails first. You lose your 2-6 ft of tippet if it isn’t the knot at the hook that breaks. You may have saved time by tying a double or triple surgeons knot, but now you have to tie two knots to put a new tippet and fly back on, instead of one knot just at the fly. Also I think he said that it is more irresponsible (not exactly the word he used, but I don’t have the book in front of me) to leave sections of tippet all over the stream or lake, especially fluourocarbon (I guess fluouro is even less degradeable??).
Art did many of his own knot to knot tests. Rather than using an expensive gage to determine the exact exact efficiency of a knot (like 97.64%) he would take a short section of tippet and two identical hooks, and tie a clinch knot on one hook and a non-slip loop knot on the other. Then he would pull on them and see which knot breaks first. He did many tests and reports the results of his tests. No surprise, the clinch knot faired poorly and the non-slip loop knot did quite well.
So, since you want your tippet to leader knot to be stronger than hook knot which one of those do you use? Well, I am getting the impression that a most of the line to line knots, like the surgeons knot, are actually pretty weak. There was a knot, I wish I could remember the name, that is similar to the blood knot, but easier, that he liked. But, for the best setup Art advocates the use of Bimini tippets. And he gives good instructions on making them. I have always been intimidated by Bimini tippets, but from his directions, it doesn’t look so bad. I’m going to try it. He says he makes up his Bimini tippets ahead of time and stores them in a leader wallet. He says to make a loop to loop at the end of your leader and loop-to-loop the Bimini tippet to it.
Now, before anybody gets too worked up, Art does NOT say that this setup is the best for all situations, and he gives some examples, but he does prefer this setup for a great deal of his fishing.
Great book, I highly recomend it. I certainly did not do his book justice in this post.
I am going to have to learn new knots and how to tie Bimini tippets this winter.