I will be interested to hear about how you find it once your new pliers have had some use.
Different people use hackle pliers in different ways. When I use teardrop hackle pliers, such as these:
I slip my index finger into the loop and wrap the hackle in one rotary movement - in other words the edge of my finger applies pressure to the inside part of the loop. During the rotation different sides of my finger make contact - or said another way, the smooth metal strip rotates around my finger.
Looking at Jay’s hackle pliers that would mean for me that my finger would be pressing into the spring.
Hans,
You would have to try them to decide for yourself. You can use them in a “rotary” movement - I haven’t found the spring to retard that movement. I have had all manner of pliers, and most would allow the material to slip occasionally. Not the case so far with these.
As with all tools, it is a personal thing, but best determined with use…
The long one below is what I was most recently using. Has two “swivels” which make it better than the teardrop for applying material. for me, anyway. It allows wrapping without your hand going over the fly.
No it was not me with the LAW or the Pamola. I actually PM’d you right after you sold it and asked that if the deal didn’t go through would you sell it to me haha. I have a Pamola as well, but did not get it from you either, I got it from a guy a in Southern California. You did mention you had a Abel vise you were going to sell but it was in storage and you were having it shipped to you, I would be interested in that if you still have it and can send me a pic or 2. Lawrence Waldron made this great tool called the 3rd hand with integrated hackle gauge, unfortunely he only made like 6 of them so they are very rare. I asked Jay to come up with something similar and sent him some picture of Waldron’s version. He couldn’t copy it exact because he didn’t have there right CNC machines but he came up with his own version that work well. I think he is going to start selling those as well.