Suggestions on how to choose the right Fishing Dog?

So I know someone that is looking to get a new dog. Yes he fishes and yes he is dying to find that right dog breed to take fishing.

Question is how would you choose and train the right Fishing dog, I guess there’s no right/wrong dog to get but some work better than others maybe??

Would you get a water dog ie: Lab/Chesapeake/ etc…
Or non water dog so you wont have to worry about it jumping in all the time?
Ideas would be very helpful since choosing and training a dog to take fishing with you can be a challenge :lol:

Well I would choose a dog based on fur colour, texture and length, That way if it turns out to be a pain when fishing you can at least use his fur to tie your favourite hair wing pattern. :lol:
All the best.
Mike.

This seems to be a dillema. You want to take a dog fishing but you don’t want the dog to retrieve your fish.
I have a feeling Chris might have some insight to this question.

My Weimaraner, Smoky Joe, has turned into a terrific fishing companion! He is a decent hunting dog, but he used to refuse to swim for anything but shot game…then it was only grudgingly. Now he will follow me across any water I can wade. If you fish really cold water mostly, then you might choose a breed better suited for colder water like a Lab, Golden, Chessie, American Water Spaniel, Pudelpointer, German Wirehair, or Griffon. The dog should have a calm disposition and be given to sitting/laying on the bank watching you fish for prolonged periods of time…gently milling about from time to time. But I do a lot of trout fishing in a relatively mild climate here in the Ozarks and in the Rockies during late summer/early fall. And the Weimaraner has no problem with that. The other advantage to short-haired breeds like the Weim, Vizla, and GSP is that they dry quickly and don’t get matted up with thorns, burrs, and such. And ticks are easy to find and remove. Running water rinses off the mud, so the stream normally takes care of the bathing as well as it does on your waders and boots.

Now to training…

I used to train gundogs professionally. ANY dog needs solid obedience training beginning right out of the whelping box. I’m not going into details here. But at a MINIMUM, all decent dogs must come on command, sit/lay down, stay, and be properly socialized to other dogs and people. A Chessie is naturally very territorial and mistrusting of strangers. Not a positive thing when fishing, unless you fish the Angeles National Forest outside of LA…where gang murders and drug dealing are chasing anglers off the water and campers, hikers, and anglers are turning up shot dead in their tents/vehicles. All dogs have a well-tuned sense of danger and will alert their owners to threatening behavior from strangers. But Chessies get aggressive around most strangers who get “too close.” This is a desirable trait in that breed that comes from the old days of market gunning for waterfowl. Part of their job was to guard the hunter’s gear and birds while he negotiated a selling price, etc. Different times and different place. You need to be able to keep your dog out of the water and he needs to not be given to wandering off at every little sound or glimpse of other people, animals, etc. He needs to also not need to stay glued to your side at all times if you are a fly angler. He needs to develop a sense of casting distance and the space you need to fish. Most dogs will pick this up pretty quickly…in a few outings. One or two snagged ears and they get the idea of a back cast. BUT…YOU need to be mindful of the dog’s presence, too! Check your back casts more frequently, maintain constant awareness of the dog’s location, and FISH BARBLESS ONLY. You are likely to only get one chance to yank a barbed hook out of a dog’s flesh. You can destroy a bond that took a long time to build in a split-second. Not to mention the health risks to the dog and the potential for biting…which is a health risk to YOU.

Finally, if you are not going to treat the dog as a fishing buddy, don’t bother. Dogs can be great companions for fishing trips. But they can also ruin one. Talk to the dog. Take some time to pet and play with him as you fish. Take some dog treats in your vest/gear bag and give him one now and then. Share some meat camp food with the dog. These are the things that make the trip special to HIM…and you if you have the right attitude. Do not overlook feeding and watering. It’s hard work for a dog to wade a stream all day and he needs hydration and energy. He will drink out of the stream. But in camp he will need lots of fresh water. Ice from a cooler can be a treat he really enjoys on a hot day. Take appropriate bedding for the dog if you are camping out. Treat it for insects. My Weim sleeps on a small bed I bought for $10 at Walgreens when we are camping…in my tent with me. Dogs staked out in a campground will NOT tend to win you friends from your neighbors! They tend to bark. Not cool! Make sure you stop fishing in time for the dog to dry off before turning in if sharing quarters with him. Wet dog smell is funky and unpleasant. Teach the dog not to relieve himself in inappropriate places…especially if you’ll be camping! A dog walking up and peeing on my tent or gear is NOT going to get him or you on my good side! He must be taught to respect gear, waders, boots, camping equipment, etc. My Weim actually wanders away from others and campsites to a secluded spot out of the traffic pattern to take care of business. I’ve had several resort, cabin, and campground owners comment on this over the course of his lifetime. They really appreciate it. Most people insist I bring him along when I go places for overnight visits. That’s a good sign that things are in order.

Yes, all of this takes a major investment of time, trouble, patience, education, and money. It takes 1-2 years to have a great dog for the next decade. The first 6 months of training is VERY demanding of your time and attention…WAY moreso than most people expect or think it should. But having a great dog is about like having a great kid with less maintenance and upkeep. Let’s face it. You can’t get by with tossing your kids out in the backyard for hours or even days on end. And you can bathe a dog monthly or even less. And vet bills are a LOT cheaper than doctors, dentists, optometrists, and orthodontists. Other than that, it’s not much different. They’re also cheaper and easier to feed. But if you aren’t going to make the proper investment, don’t bother getting a dog. The dog deserves better, YOU deserve better, your family deserves better, and your neighbors and the people you encounter in public deserve better.

Silvermallard,

Thanks a ton for your insight and experiences. I will definitely pass them on to my friend. Having a dog for one can be always a challenge, than to train one can be tough, than lastly taking him/her fishing can make for an interesting day!

Thanks

Well, I for one can tell you what I have to deal with. :?

My Lab is a year and some now… I trained her last winter for Pheasant hunting. She makes a decent flusher… doesn’t follow the bird once its up though.

Anyways, fishing. She love’s the water. It is somewhat of a battle when pond fishing to keep her from charging out into the water. And if a rabbit runs out away from the pond… oh’ lord. I dunno, I just find it easier NOT to take her fishing. I tend to like to concentrate when fly fishing (getting flies out of tree’s and untangling knots takes concentration), and having to watch after a dog constantly is tough.

I still do it though. One day, one of us will get trained.

Generally speaking, Mike, I don’t think it’s a good idea. There aren’t many folks who have dogs that add to the experience. In fact, most will mess things up for OTHER people. It’s one thing to decide to screw up your own fishing. It’s entirely unsportsmanlike to do it to others.

In my case, I had to wait for the dog to age a bit. Duncan is an 11 year old chocolate lab who just became a good fishing companion about a year ago. I tried in the past, but, being a lab with a serious prey drive, I could never get him to settle. His bird duties have been taken over by his niece, Pearl, so now he is my buddy on the stream. He has calmed down in his old age and will quietly sit in the water next to me (as long as it’s not moving too fast) as I fish. When fish are caught, he dutifully inspects them before they are released. All it takes is a frequent pat on the head, some kind words, and a few treats and he is happy. Best dog I’ve ever had the priviledge to be around.

You are very fortunate to have your dog. Duncan sounds like a wonderful dog.

My new fishing pal – maybe – she likes water awefully much, and is about the friendliest dog I have ever met. She’s about 50 lbs at only 17 weeks. Her dad was 165 lbs. I’m trying to find a market for drool and black dog hair.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

I think “retired” gun dogs are great candidates for fishing companions.

Well, a great question “What kind of dog would make a good fishing companion?”. The first thing I would do is to look into Dog Rescue. With all the dogs in the world, and so many that need a good home, that would be my first reccomendation. You can find dog rescue places that specialize in specific breeds. They most always have a good history of the dog, its likes, dislikes, good and bad sides of the animal and want to make sure you and the dog are a good fit. Mrs. Jonezee has raised Irish Water Spanials. They are a terrific breed, don’t shed, have web paws, yes they like the water, hence their name. They are known as the clown of the dog breeds. A medium size dog that will make a great companion for an outdoorsman. Also well suited to a kennel and they travel well. We have had several, Fergus was the first IWS to be invited to the first Eukanuba Cup in Orlando, Florida. He took 3rd place (ask how many IWS were there -yup, you guessed it, 3). Never the less, he rose above many other IWS in later years and won many 1st place ribbons and best of breeds. He is now retired and lives with a family with young children on the Oregon Coast. Go on line, check out Irish Water Spanials and especially IWS rescue. If you don’t want a IWS, check our your dog of choice under dog rescue. I guarantee you and Mr. Fish Dog won’t be disapointed. Good luck, may the best dog win. By the way, there is something special about a dog that has been rescued, they know it and they aim to please to keep you.

Trout-Dawg,

If you were in my yard yesterday evening you could have had the pick of the litter. Our two little mutts were barking like crazy in the house and when I looked out in the back yard here comes not 1, not 2 not 3; but, Momma, Daddy and eight ( 8), yes that’s correct, eight of the cutest dark chocolate Labs you ever saw. They gathered ariound my wife and kept going up into the wodds and back out front and finally headed up our road towards a neighbors house. Shortly thereafter here comes an small SUV speeding up our road and a young lady frantically asking if we’d seen any chocoalte labs. We pointed her towards the road and she stopped and the began the funniest retrieval we’ve seen in a while. As she tried to stuff all eight pups into her SUV they kept coming out the open front door. She finally got them all aboard and said that the mom and dad would run along side her SUV till she got them back home. Seems mom slipped her leash and all followed on a neighborhood jaunt. Beautiful dogs and huge- even at puppy stage.

Meet Kuma
He looks like your little new fishing pal will in a couple of years. By the way he is now up to 150 lbs. Great companions newfies are and not bad fishing partners after the initial first swim. Also there size tends to keep some folks away.

Hehehe … Thanks DShock …

IMHO, … 'cause I’ve had a few, … water dogs are often more of a problem if they can’t be trained to stay OUT of the water. A friends Chesp. would actually DIVE underwater chasing salmon.

From my experience, the breeds that tend to get problems in their hips (like some of the sheperds) have trouble in cold water, … so take that into consideration too.

Size really doesn’t matter. When your buddy is too big for the canoe, get a drift boat.

The dawg shelters are great places to find fine companions. The workers/volunteers at a good shelter can give you an idea if a prospect is too domineering etc.

Respect for others on the beach is a sure fire way to get your new buddy to be accepted at the local riffle. Remember, some folks are down right AFRAID of dogs.

Teach 'em also to sit off to your side a bit. Keeps 'em from geting snagged on a drooping back cast. When you’re in the river, your dawg will try to sit at a spot the closest to you, … which means directly bihind you as you cast straight out. A drooping back cast will snag him for sure.

Best of luck, … choosing a new Dawg is even more rewarding than looking for a new rod. Try to use the SPCA or a shelter, … those lil’ pups need all the help they can.


Kenny - Wondering when we can go get something to eat

Hey Trout-Dawg,

First off, I really believe a dog chooses you. Your job is just to put yourself in front of them to see if they decide to take “you” home! Your buddy will know when it’s the right one; he/she won’t let you leave without them. If you do leave without the right dog, trust me, you’ll not make it too far away before you find yourself completing a u-turn to retrieve your new companion. This will usually be followed by a teary-eyed apology to your new found friend for leaving without them in the first place! (Smiling)

You have received many, many, great comments and suggestions. I especially like the ones making note of respecting others on the water experience. It’s a personal choice to bring along a dog while fishing, and some will find your decision absolutely offensive from the get go. Respect for your fellow fisherman ranks extremely high up on the list of considerations when choosing to bring along your four legged fishing companion.

As others have stated, some folks are down right afraid of dogs, and just the sight of one on the river can ruin their whole day/experience. So first and foremost, be sure to respect your fellow fishermen, and your dog. Please don’t put either one of them in a no win situation, it can turn ugly very quickly.

For this reason, man’s best friend only accompanies me on the river during very low use periods of the year (read as, it’s cold outside and others aren’t on the river anyways), or when we venture to mountain streams where it’s highly unlikely we’ll run into another fisherman the whole day. If I do encounter other fishermen, I make sure to take a wide path around them so as not to disturb them and ruin their fishing trip.

That being said, I thought I would share a photo of a truly great dog! He’s a tri-colored Australian Shepherd, and His name is THK’s Crimson Red Rider, or, just “Red” for short! Whether he ranks up there as a great fishing companion, I believe so, and that’s just my personal opinion, he truly seems to think so! You’ll notice the red leash attached to my fishing friend, this is because I respect him, so he’ll respect me, and together we’ll respect others!

I wish your friend the best of luck, and I hope during his search, a special friend finds your buddy!

Kindest regards,

Terry

:smiley:

I think we found the perfect dog. Yes, they drool, but they wouldn’t hurt a soul. She went swimming for the first time at 16 weeks. They do the breast stroke instead of the dog paddle. Pretty agile in the water for such a large breed. The webbed paws are pretty unique too.

[quote=“Kerry_Stratton”]

Meet Kuma
He looks like your little new fishing pal will in a couple of years. By the way he is now up to 150 lbs. Great companions newfies are and not bad fishing partners after the initial first swim. Also there size tends to keep some folks away.[/quote]
Hi Kuma! I was mistaken you don’t look fierce, you look like you could do some serious licking!
Keep those dog photos coming everyone! :smiley:

My long time fishing partner (shepherd cross) passed on and I was faced with finding a replacement as I have enjoyed dogs all my life. I found a border collie cross pup which turned out to be 90% german shorthair(couldn’t tell as a pup)…What a nightmare…She hates water and runs for my truck. I immediately went on the search for a water dog…Found a lab/english shepherd cross(mostly lab) and what a companion…even as a pup she lays on the river bank and watches me fish and rarely comes in an interrupts me but loves the water. I have to be very careful where I take her as we have rattlesnakes along our rivers and would hate to lose her to a snake bite. She pays no attention to other fishers and/or their dogs. Couldn’t be a better companion.
Mike