I understand that a similar thread was deleted due to some posts. If this thread can be kept straight perhaps many of us will benefit from those who are more experienced in steelhead patterns. Last Saturday a few of us went to Cattaragus Creek for the first time and I’m looking forward to a trip or two to the tribs of Lake Ontario soon. What patterns would you suggest or have been successful for you in these waters?
Thanks in advance for information and for keeping this thread on track.
Ya, swell, ya went fishin’ but we are left to wonder how it went! 8) Hope these guys list some flies for you. My one and only fly for them was a Skunk. Black over white. All I ever used.
Sorry, forgot to mention that I was a ‘steelie virgin’ prior to going and left the water having that same status . It cost each of the three of us $35 for the ‘reservation pass’ that’s good until the end of the year. That’s one reason we may go back. This week we/I will probably try one of the Lake Ontario tribs. Maybe my status will change :lol:
Thanks for that pattern and maybe, as you said, “these guys list some flies for you”. If my status changes, I will certainly let you know.
At this point, especially for Lake Ontario where the salmon populations are large, both streamer and egg patterns will do well. Once the bulk of the steelhead enter the tributaries, there is usually significant salmon spawning occurring, and it doesn’t take long at all for the steelhead to focus their feeding efforts on eggs. Of course, they’re still accustomed to eating small baitfish and will aggressively and readily take streamers, too. Once water temps drop, their feeding behavior shifts dramatically - their tendency to move for a fly (be it swung or drifted) diminishes. Long story short, right now they’ll eat just about anything. As winter’s grip strengthens, swung flies will still take fish, but nymphs and eggs will predominate as food sources (black stonefly nymphs and caddis larvae/pupae work particularly well for Erie fish).
Right now things are a little tricky re: finding fishable water. The biggest tributaries are exactly where efforts should be focused until the rains come! Of course, this means dealing with other anglers, who inevitably concentrate on the bigger waters during drought periods like this one. More so on Ontario tribs, there is a significant salmon-targeting contingent, so you may very will find your spots away from the crowd. Bonus, if you can locate spawning salmon - fishing behind them with egg patterns will often afford you some success with both hungry steelhead and lake-run browns that will also be gearing up to spawn soon.
The patterns mentioned in previous posts will do the trick.
The first thing you have to do, is a rain dance because everything up here is in rough shape. I was on the Catt yesterday and each week it looks worse and worse.
You can keep the pattern selection pretty simple by getting sucker spawn, wolly buggers and egg sucking leeches, in a variety of sizes and colors. That basic set-up will cover you pretty well. The guys mentioned a number of other patterns, that also work well, so if you want to expand your selection, there’s some good options.
Chris, I was gonna try the Clouser’s this weekend and of course, I left them in the truck. lol.
Marty, is something wrong? I looked at the weather forecast for the week and it’s gone from rain all week, to a couple days of rain. lol.
I’ll be heading up to fish the Tribs early this week. Here are a couple of flies that I and my fishing buds have had very good success with over the years. I would suggest going bigger and brighter in stained water and smaller with natural colors in clear water. The clearer the sky the smaller the fly has also worked for me.
And always have size 6, 8, & 10 Wooly Buggers in black, brown, olive and white. This year I’ve tied some of Rummels and regular Buggers in a silver grey just to see. It never hurts to have some Crystal Meth and some single egg patterns. Hope this helps.
DShock - Green Weenies and my varient with a red hackle tied in at the head. It’s a fly from Westmorland County PA. Very popular there.
REE - I try and keep things neat and organized, but it’s the begining of the steelhead season. Some sorting and organizing will be in order come spring. If I think about it I’ll post an “after” picture in a few months! I’m sure it won’t be pretty!
Yep - I like the look when these get wet. The veil gets a great translucent look and has a ton of movement that just screams “I’m alive, eat me!” The little bit of cyrstal flash as a tail, hidden in that veil makes it twinkle and sparkle. When the fish are taking eggs it’s a great pattern. The best part is it’s poly pillow stuffing that’s cheap and easy to work with. My wife made some throw pillows a few years ago and I stole a snack size zip lock bag full. It’s just getting to the point I can close that little bag without worrying about it trying to burst open again. I’ve tied hundreds and hundreds of these for Steelhead over the last few years. I love this fly when they’re taking eggs.