Hi guyys, can this fly be considered a spider?
Very nice looking fly , but I think the beadhead takes it away from being a spider. Check out Donald Nicklesons website. It has a beautiful selection of all types of spiders.
http://www.dtnicolson.dial.pipex.com/
On second thought why not a bead head spider? Hmmmmm :?
GBF, I saw those flies, they are really great, its just that I recieved recently a package of Alec Jackson wet spider trout hooks and I really have no experience with spiders :lol: thought the bead may improve its fish catching ability 
Carpcrazy,
While not a spider in the truest sense of the word, it is a very nice wet fly. I usually fish flies of that type in the top 12 inches of the water column or higher, especially during a hatch. They get hit as emerging insects.
How do you like those AJ hooks? I have a couple packs in size 15 and 17. I think I’d rather tie on the Daiichi 1640’s. Same straight eye 2x short hook, just not as shiney and a lot cheaper.
REE
REE, I really liked those hooks they are very sharp, and wire is very fine and particularly liked the color I have used them already for trout and also caught some LMB and BG’s they really did the job
Xavier
I tie lots of patterns with bead heads. Sometimes it works better , on other days it doesn’t . Your bead head spider looks very fishable to me.
Hi CarpCrazy,
Some of the spider patterns call for a peacock herl head, so if you imagin your bead was peacock herl then the overall shape would resemble one of those patterns. As REE indicates, typically spiders are fished high in the water so the bead works against fishhing this one in the traditional manner. However, a beadhead spider could be fished like a weighted nymph and should work just fine. I have some flies I tied after looking at some Japanese flies, and the pattern I came up with is sort of a beaded spider (red yarn tuft for tail, peacock hurl body, ribbed with red floss, long fiber brown hen hackle collar, oversized copper bead head) and I have caught a fish in a fast deep pool with it as it was the only fly I had that would get down in the current.
For traditional proportions, the body usually stops at the point, or at most half-way between point and barb. Of course, as Donald has pointed out, there are some areas where the body was even shorter or almost non-existant (Tummel). Basically, you cannot make the body too short on a spider.
Anyway, I bet you’ll catch fish with that.
- Jeff
what did you use for the body?? it looks like floss but im not sure 8)
It looks like it will catch fish, which is the only real criteria. Try some without the bead, and various lengths of body.
By the way what is the body, and the hackle, reddish brown hen or cockeral??
hmmm if i didnt know better that that hook is a aj… i would have guessed that it was a bonefish hook by dai riki :shock:
Hi people for the coments well, I thought about fishing that fly deep, because the palces I fish are mostly deep waters, so weight os needed hehehe the body is Ice Thread from Harelin it is great!!! the hackle is hen saddle
Xavier
Hi Carpcrazy,
Ice thread, neat. Gives a cool translucent look. After fishing deep, try a few unweighted spiders in the riffles above or below the deep pools, or along the edge of the pool on the other side (or on your side if you start above the pool). Often, I’ll pick up fish in all of those zones, and since they tend to be shallower, you may be surprised on how many fish will come up to take the spiders. Of course, it’s easy to give advice when you can’t actually see the river 
! ha! Anyway, I have no doubt that fishing your beaded spider deep will produce fish for you.
- Jeff
well im gonna have to make another trip to the fly shop for some ice thread! 8)
Carpcrazy,
This fly looks fine! Comparing this fly with flies I have used, the Body is a Soft Hackle Fly body, the Hackle is more Dry Fly hackle than Soft and the Bead is what I would use on a Hare’s Ear nymph.
Tying a Soft Hackle fly with partridge hackle and no bead is a sure way to catch lots of fish.
Doug
Doug, now you mention it it really looks like dry fly hackle hehe I’ll change the hackle for hen or partridge and lets see how it looks :lol:
Xavier
The fish will thank you!