You mean we can get twice as many hook-ups if we do this?
“Like it or not, a revolving spinner blade in front of a streamer probably doubles its effectiveness”…Dave Whitlock
You mean we can get twice as many hook-ups if we do this?
“Like it or not, a revolving spinner blade in front of a streamer probably doubles its effectiveness”…Dave Whitlock
Part of the fun of fishing is limiting yourself. Did that person also mention that we can catch 100 times more fish if we drag a net across the pond?
draging a net across the pond you done fight the fish, if you hook a fish you can fight the fish.
Maybe so if run thru a deep pool or cut bank.
Jerry
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so duckster got his freebie issue yesterday also…why they keep sending me this mag I have no clue…Only sent in for the freebie!
As you can tell from one of my sig. quotes I firmly believe Mr. Whitlock might be on to sump’in !!!..I sure won’t say hes wrong in that statement!!.But I won’t say I entirely agree with what he states in the order of blade color selections. Or the 3 colors that he did not mention or does not ply in his use of them.
“I’ve often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before” A.K.Best
Everyone wants to excel in this sport but at the same time we let traditionalists place restrictions on our tactics, methods, and ideas. I always assumed that fly fishing was a sport that allowed imagination, creation, adaptation, investigation, dedication, education, revelation? : Fox Statler, On Spinners (Not the dainty Dry Fly kind) “Spinner’d Minner Fly”
“Wish ya great fishing”
Bill
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Sometimes I see trout jump when I am using a spinnerbait. Some of my spinnerbaits vibrate so much that I can feel a strong vibration in the rod
When I picture a “spinnerbait” I get the image of the wire fourm rubber skirted bass lure of say half OZ. or better…lol…So I’d have to ask what size blades you are talking of…I use no bigger than a size 1 Preffering 0 for optimum casting comfort.
(Do a search on this site for the “Spinnered Minner fly”…It was a fly of the week a couple years back)…Although Thats not exactly how I tye my spinnered flies…
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My post was indeed referring to the bass type spinnerbait
I don’t know, but last summer I got out fished by a guy using a wooly bugger with a propeller on it.
Fox Uses a vibrax type blade,Backed with a bead…He also states useing a barrel swivel on his leader to prevent leader twist.
I use a folded clevis (Smoothest I’ve found)* Cabela’s Has these by the 500 pack in their Tackle Craft Catalog*, And a colrado blade backed with a bead,I thread this on the hook. Then tie the fly behind it. I use no swivel’s on my leaders and have never found I needed them.
I have tried the vibrax blades and found no need for the swivel with those either…But I always fish a level 10 to 12 Lb. Vanish Leader… I fish Level Leaders almost all the time these days even for the picky stretches of the Penns for Browns… although lighter tests still seldom less than 4Lb. These flies work extremely well for all manner of fish !!! I truely hope you might give them a shot.
Oh yeah…One small detail…If you even think there may be a toothy critter around…Feel very free to add an 18 inch tippet of Berkley Fireline!! about 10 lb. test will do nicely. It’s strong as steel,Won’t Kink or Coil as wire will…and Ya just might be glad ya did!!! also doesn’t add any more weight to the setup.
I’ve pulled Browns and Northern’s
from the same hole on the Penn’s on a few occasions,Alway’s fun on the Penn’s.
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Just my own experience…
The last time I tried a fly with a propeller on it and I caught 3 times more fish than my previous time out.
Of course, 3 times 0 is still 0.
But seriously, the spinners really do work. I can’t verify the vibration theory, but they do tend to add a little flash. And we all know how the fish like a little flash once in a while. Same reason a bead head or a wire rib works, and brass/gold is definitely the more productive color.
There’s almost nothin’ wrong with the first lie, it’s the weight of all the others holdin’ it up that gets ya’! - Tim
My home waters are atlantic salmon waters, … so according to Quebec regs, … spinning or undulating parts are banned (this includes tandem rigged flies) …
One fly per line, … one line per angler
Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
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Chris, does the ban on “undulating parts” preclude the use of zonkers or even maribou?
Ed
When bass and panfishing I regularly use the fly and spinner combination.
For those not aware of the rich history of this tactic, you can find recipes and written accounts of the fly and spinner dating back more than 100 years, not only for bass, but for trout and salmon too. Indeed, The House of Hardy used to sell full dress salmon flies equipped with spinners. Here are a couple examples of flies that I use when bass fishing:
Buck Tail Spinner
Pecks Squirrel Tail Spinner
Professor
Red Hackle
Royal Monster
I make my own in line spinners with a Hagens wire former. They are fun to make.
I know that some modern anglers are prone to dismiss the fly and spinner combination as something other than fly fishing in it’s purest form and I suspect there is some truth to that, in an old fashioned British sort of way; we are indeed not imitating flies with this tackle! However I make no apologies. It’s a lot of fun and very effective. It also opens up new realms for those of us that enjoy making our own tackle. Give it a try - you might like it! Alec
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Bravo Alec, You are so right! I hope you stay out of the box and keep up the good work.
I got into fishing long ago and fly fishing only a few years ago but I have yet to see a " Rule Book" on fly fishing or any other type of fishing yet. Other than the obvious State and local regulations.
Thanks for the post and the insight.
“A smart man learns from his mistakes,
A wise man learns from others”
I’ve seen those spinner-flies, but never used them. Interesting topic really.
If I were to use one, I probably wouldn’t cast it on my fly rod (unless of course, it was just a propeller on the front of a bugger or something). I would dig the old spinning rod out of the closet and use it…after all, that’s what it’s designed for!!! Those pics of spinner-flies posted above are hardly any different than the spinners I used to make by hand. Instead of plastic beads, they had brass bodies with brass beads (made them heavier). I never dressed the hook (I did use single hooks often). Those spinners worked wonders. I guess the fly would add some good action and make them prettier.
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Back in the “good old days,” attaching a small bronze or silver Colorado Spinner in front of a wet fly was how you did it on Western waters. The heavier, slower action bamboo rods of the day had no problem with the added weight, and I can say from personal experience, the things worked; particularly early in the season when the water was off color due to run-off.
I also remember when Mepps spinners first hit the market. They were simply taking something that fly fisherman had been using effectively for years and moving it into the world of spin fishing.
Dan S
“I still don’t know why I fish or why other men fish, except that we like it and it makes us think and feel.” Roderick Haig-Brown, A River Never Sleeps
That quote would be scary ONLY if the words" from this day forth, you must use a revolving spinner blade…under penalty of law". Other than that, use a red and white bobber and see if I care.Whatever floats your boat is fine with me.