Anybody want to venture a list of the top 3 or 4 flies for salt water? I fish in the Northeast (Jamaica Bay, NY) mostly. I’m interested in on-shore fishing.
I’d like to compile an up to date list by region. I don’t think there are as many out there as people think. Maybe I’m wrong but it would be nice to know.
Also, does anyone know about a fly for Stripers called a Grocery?
dc
Many men go fishing all of their lives
without knowing that it is not fish they
are after.
Henry David Thoreau
The grocery fly is a large deceiver type fly used in the Maine/N.H area. I believe it imitates a pollock.
My top four;
“The trout were laughing so hard at us that they considered evolving legs so they could crawl on to land and catch their breath”
Dave Barry
[This message has been edited by dudley (edited 30 September 2005).]
Deciever and Clouser are the two most popular in my opinion. After that they seem to vary more depending on location. I’ve used both successfully from New England to the Carribean.
jed
i’d have to say the rays fly rates pretty highly
I’m with Jed, clousers and decievers. There’s no baitfish hatch that i have not been able to match with a clouser or a deciever. Sometimes you may find them feeding in a crap hatch or a worm hatch, in that case keep a couple of those around. Also, when your in a bluefish frenzy, poppers and gurglers will do the trick.
Good Luck,
Chris
Ditto D. Micus.
Ray’s Fly is a great pattern.
I also tie a variation of the Ray’s that I call the Purple Haze. Instead of topping off with green I use purple.
It has been the go to fly this year for me.
I like Ray’s Fly, but I do not think it is one of the most popular. I use it alot, but I don’t hear of those outside of New England utilizing it as much.
As for the Purple Haze, I tie Ray’s fly as follows:
Wing: Sparse white bucktail twice as long as the hook.
Sparse yellow bucktail 2 1/2 times as long as the hook.
Two to four strands of silver or pearl flashabou.
Sparse olive bucktail 3 times the length of the hook.
Topping: 7 strands of peacock herl extending just beyond the wing.
Where is this green you talk about?? Do I use Yellow??
[url=http://www.stripermoon.com/flyarch/arc1.html:659f8]http://www.stripermoon.com/flyarch/arc1.html[/url:659f8] is where I got the recipe
jed
Jed,
Some people skip the fragile peacock herl and add a topping of plastic or bucktail.
“The trout were laughing so hard at us that they considered evolving legs so they could crawl on to land and catch their breath”
Dave Barry
[This message has been edited by dudley (edited 04 October 2005).]
jed, i think the green refers to olive.
Jed:
Dave is right. I was referring to olive. Just spaced a bit and was too lazy to edit the post when I noticed it.
e
I love a good bunker crease fly or an Enrico’s Mackerel or maybe even Dave Skok’s Harbor Pollack on a chilly November evening in NJ.
for me decievers, clousers and popper types
my fourth most used fly is probably a olive bunny strip that emulates a small eel
Duh… I did not see the olive/chartreuse/green/leafy color in my fly and I did not even read the cut and paste description.
I better go back to drinking rum as the halucinations are confusing the heck out of me.
jed
Jed,
Halucinations?
Maybe you should lay off of the purple haze
In order:
Clouser - deep
Deceiver - mid
Kwan or other Shrimp imitation- mid
Dahlberg Diver surface
Good Fishing
Chuck Scheerschmidt
“I’ve traveled a long way and some of the roads weren’t paved.”
NORTHEAST Saltwater:
Clouser Minnow
Lefty’s Deceiver
Surf Candy
EP Fibers & Kinky Fiber flies to imitate Pnut Bunker
Bob’s Banger, Gartside Gurgler or Crease Fly
I could (probably) fish the entire season with just these 5 or 6 flies in 2 colors and 2 sizes. Do I? Heck no! I tie 8 million different flies in a gazillion colors and sizes to fit every possible situation imaginable and then what do I do…I revert back to these same 5 or 6 patterns in 2 different sizes and 2 different colors and fish them consistantly…ahhhh, ain’t life grand!!!
dscapuano in the original post: " … Also, does anyone know about a fly for Stripers called a Grocery?"
Among other things , you requested information about a 'grocery fly' which is used for stripers. This saltwater fly enjoys a good reputation among fly fishermen across the North East , from Maine to Sandy Hook when fishing for stripers.
The fly comes from its originators : Eldridge Brothers Fly Shop in Cape Neddick , Me.
and it is usually tied in a 4/0 hook as a pollock imitation. Further information may be obtained at :
<< [url=http://www.eldredgeflyshop.com/html/flies.htm:0248c]http://www.eldredgeflyshop.com/html/flies.htm[/url:0248c] >>
An illustrated recipie and fly tying illustration can be found at :
<< [url=http://www.maineflyfish.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2635:0248c]http://www.maineflyfish.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2635[/url:0248c] >>
I hope this helps........
Dadflyer
tight lines
bright fish
taut threads
I like anything that is chartrues and white or red and white, both with lots of flash.
Who has time for stress when there are fish to catch.
Nick
Dadflyer:
Thanks for the info on the Grocery fly.
All:
thanks to all for you info.
dc
Many men go fishing all of their lives
without knowing that it is not fish they
are after.
Henry David Thoreau