This should solve your problem. http://www.flyanglersonline.com/cst/cst061002.html
JC,
I tried looking at the web site in the article and my computer cannot find the site. Is this site up and running yet or could it just be my computer?
And it begins…
I wonder how far it can go this time…
Buddy
???
Rookie, Try clicking on refresh. The link JC gave you is on THIS site.
Mark
Mark,
I was refering to RegFly.org. It appears it is not complete and ready for viewing according to my computer.
Sorry, I thought I read your post until I read it again. My Bad. Mark
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Somebody had to take the bait, lock, stock and barrel. May as well have been me. 
Hey, JC’s a “hard call” 
When I checked the address on the link and saw it went back to FAOL, I looked to see if the article wae written on April 1st.
With JC in the mix, you gotta consider… :lol:
Kirk
I think I would like to submit a couple of patterns to Umpqua, but I’m having trouble finding the link to do so on their website. Can anyone help? Thanks.
http://www.umpqua.com/default.aspx
-RC
Umpqua, Spirit River etc all don’t copyright the pattern. They trademark your name with the name of the fly, ie Barr’s Copper John _ probably the single most commercially successful fly in the modern era.
There are lots of other company’s selling Copper Johns, or Copper Bob’s etc etc. Not to mention locally tied copies etc. The tier gets a royalty for each fly SOLD and is tied to the company with a contract, not to sell it to anyone else etc, the flies are then tied offshore according to instructions. No issues of anyone home tying etc, in fact I seem to remember John Barr doing a very detailed instructional piece on tying for one of the magazines.
If you want to join the list of “named” fly designers, the usual standard is 6 of each fly. Color changes/ size variations require a new 6. ie If you have a pattern with two sizes and three colors you will need to tie 36 flies to send in to the company. The process is underway for 09 fly catalogues currently.
Cheers
Steve
Steve-
Thanks for the useful info, but I’d still like to know more.
So are you saying that you only get the royalty for the origional six flies you submit, or that you get it for each fly that Uppqua sells? I don’t especially care, I mostly just think it would be awesome to have a fly with my name on it. Also, where can I find instructions for submitting flies. For instance, what are the deadlines if any, what address should they be mailed to, are you supposed to submit instructions / materials list with the flies, etc, etc.? Is there a link somewhere on the website that I’m just not seeing? Thanks.
-RC
maybe the “contact us” page???
I didn’t think it could be read that way but I was wrong LOL. No you get paid royalties for each fly sold by Umpqua under your name.
Im not sure off hand when the deadline is, but its in the next few weeks I believe for 09.
Material lists are helpful, and if your planning an Umpqua fly don’t use exclusively Spirit River materials or vice versa.
The reason Umpqua for one don’t publish submission instructions is they get hundreds upon hundreds of applications every year to sift through. And that is what you are up against with Umpqua. They probably add 30-40 fly patterns a year ( and that includes variants) and we are “Joe Blows” competing against Kaufmann, Barr, Mercer, Clouser, Popovics et al for a spot. They are legends and rightly so.
Other companies can be more accomodating about taking “no-name” fly tiers, my colleague Bryce Cadion has had his midge patterns signed by Spirit River for '08. Another saltwater tier and friend, had his flies accepted by orvis before moving to Umpqua
And its not just about having a fly that works, Umpqua is looking for stuff that sells.
Tailwater patterns are in demand _ always. But a different color variation of a zebra midge isn’t going to get you a spot.
Same with a woolly bugger _ yawn LOl
But there is no harm in trying.
Cheers
Steve
I think for the mere pittance in royalty one will receive from the big fly tying supply houses that I certainly would be richer knowing that I have given the fly tying world a fly that catches fish wherever it is used and that I’m proud of.
just an opinion.
Can’t you have both Norm?
A pittance (depends how popular your fly is) and giving the world a pattern. I mentioned Barr, but Mike Mercer has written books, detailed mag articles on how to tie their flies, so has Kaufmann’s, freely giving away their secrets _ or almost freely. Charlie Craven has a bunch of his and other patterns on his website (great resource for tying). And not only can you share the fly with more people going the commercial route (publicity/availability) but you can also share it with those that don’t tie.
Just another thought.
Cheers
Steve
… When you submit your pattern, do you have to send some in just once, like a half dozen, and then their people in sri lanka(or however you spell it :)) and you just get paid for each flie that they sell, or do you have to make them yourself?
JZ
Yes :lol:
Which is good I don’t like tying that much to do the numbers Umpqua or SR etc might require in a year.
And I know my eyes wouldn’t cope LOl