I wanted to know if it would work to tie something like a zebra midge on an emerger hook. I was wanting to tie some small ones, size 24, but the hook is an emerger hook. I’ve been using scud hooks and they work just fine. To me, there does not appear to be a big difference between an emerger hook and a scud hook. Any thoughts?
go right ahead and tie the zebra midge on that emerger hook or even a straight shank hook. nothing is cast in stone that says you “must” use a certain hook.
Oh my gawd, I tie emergers on scud hooks!!! DOOM!!! Then again I tie a lot of stuff on scud hooks.
What Normand said.
Thoughts?
What makes an ‘emerger’ hook different from a scud hook? Why do that have ‘special hooks’ for them?
Or, for that matter what makes a ‘scud’ hook a ‘scud’ hook?
‘Scud’ is a generic name for several different aquatic insects. From what I can tell by looking at the bugs themselves, you can tie an imitation of them on lots of different hooks.
What is an ‘emerger’? An aquatic insect that ‘comes out of’ (emerges from?) something. The water? It’s skin? Hiding?
What makes YOU think there is a ‘special’ or ‘specific’ hook for this broad range of insects?
Are you serious about this, or are you just yanking our chains?
You got to be kidding, right?
Good Luck!
Buddy
p.s; You DID ask for ‘thoughts’…BS
As far as I can tell the main difference between hooks sold as scud hooks and those sold as emerger hooks is the diameter of the wire. The emerger hooks are a finer wire hook than most scud hooks.
Steve
Thanks for all the replies thus far. I believe my question has been answered. I appreciate all of you sharing your insights and thoughts. I did not post this to yank anyone’s chains. Whenever I’ve tied small midges it’s always been on a scud hook. I did not designate that name for the hook … the manufacturer did. The flyshops I frequent sell both scud hooks and emerger hooks. That’s the name given to them on the package and to be honest, the look alot alike. I’m still learning alot about tying flies and fishing. I’ve asked alot of questions through this forum and I’ve learned some valuable insights.
Biot Midge, thank you for sharing the differences between the two hooks; it makes sense that the “emerger” hook would be a finer diameter.
What makes an ‘emerger’ hook different from a scud hook? Why do that have ‘special hooks’ for them?
Or, for that matter what makes a ‘scud’ hook a ‘scud’ hook?
‘Scud’ is a generic name for several different aquatic insects. From what I can tell by looking at "the bugs themselves, you can tie an imitation of them on lots of different hooks.
What is an ‘emerger’? An aquatic insect that ‘comes out of’ (emerges from?) something. The water? It’s skin? Hiding?
What makes YOU think there is a ‘special’ or ‘specific’ hook for this broad range of insects?
Are you serious about this, or are you just yanking our chains?
You got to be kidding, right?
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i use mainly dai-riki hooks. the dai-riki 135 is labeled on the box as a “scud/pupa” hook. likewise, the 125 is labeled on the box as an “emerger” hook. so i guess you could say they do have special hooks just for those patterns. doesn’t mean you have to use them i guess. gqualls, good question. had the same one a while back myself and got a lot of informative replies. comparing the 135 and the 125 side by side, the 125 emerger hook is a finer wired hook. also has a straight eye as opposed to the 135 which bends down slightly. give the dai-riki a try if you haven’t.
the hooks for scud and emergers for the most part are the same…
Thanks everyone. I’ve used both hooks for the small zebra midges and have had wonderful results.