Partridge of Redditch

Does anyone use these hooks? And, where would one purchase them (catalogs)? I do not see them at the few shops I go to. Use to see them 5 - 10 years ago.

Yes, I use them occassionaly. They make some hooks that nobody else makes like the CS15 (10XL streamer). There are some places on the web that sell them but I tend to get mine on ebay or at the rare fly shop that carries them. Since I live over an hour from the nearest shop, I always stop by anytime I get near one, whereever I am. There’s quite a few on ebay right now depending on what you want. By the way, they’re nice hooks.

TxEngr

I use them quite often with satisfactory results. They offer a few wierd ( different) types that I enjoy using. I get most of them for last few years on e-bay. I usually buy large amounts and get them at fair prices.

I use them all the time…I get them from Chris Helm. I can’t say that I have not had problems with the quality control on these hooks but I have always been sent new ones.


“Fear No Fish”

I use them more and more every year. I am in love with the new SLD’s. And now I’m playing Dr. Frankenstein with Waddington Shanks.

The Mustad distribution warehouse in NY is well stocked so your retailer should have little trouble getting them for you.

Thank you all for your help. Should now be able to get a few boxes of them.

As mentioned above, Chris Helm at Whitetail Fly Tying Supplies is a great source for Partridge. Not only does he have a great selection, he’s a direct account so he can quickly order hooks that he does not have.

I’m happy to say a lot of work has gone onto the Partridge line up for 2005. Quality has never been better since a lot of $$$ was invested in retooling production. There have over the years been quality issues with hooks that were produced in Redditch. This is a thing of the past now with all the improvements. Another interesting thing is that the global range is now available here in North America. The selection has nearly tripled! The main distributors of fly tying supplies are supporting Partridge, so you local shop can order anything you want. If they tell you differently, they are really telling you they don’t want your business.

Be sure to check out the new Flashpoint hooks. They got a lot of great reviews at the FFF Conclave, where they were sampled to the tiers. Keep your eyes open for the Partridge hook giveaway coming up here on FAOL ??


Jeff - AKA Dr. Fish
If it has fins and swims than I must chase it!

Mustad,has always been my favorite hook to use, ever since Mustad bought Partridge, the quality of Partridge Hooks have improve to Mustad Hook standards.

It is great that this is a Win - Win - Win Situation for Fly Tier’s. Good Quality - Good Selection - Good Price.

Does anyone know a Canadian based company selling these? My local fly guy is AWOL and if I gotta order them in, I’d rather not deal with border fees.

Partridge have an on line catalogue -
http://www.partridge-of-redditch.co.uk/

Try googling - Partridge Hooks - for an on-line supplier, or try
http://www.partridge-of-redditch.co.uk/Dealers.html

As I asked recently, does anyone have rust problems with Partridge ? Once a fly has been used it rusts if it is on these. My favourite hooks are Kamasan, they don’t rust - in the same flybox. There are very few shapes Kamasan don’t make- I can’t imagine why anyone would use anything else.

Hi there,

I live in New Brunswick and visit Doak’s regularly. They have Partridge hooks and is where I get mine for Atlantic Salmon. I use the Bartleet and Bartleet Supreme ALOT.

Check out www.wwdoak.com

They are a great group of guys and a pleasure to deal with.

Dwight

Brad,

Here on the east coast most of us stock Partridge Hooks as they are a staple for salmon flies.

I stock both salmon and trout hooks from Partridge, WW Doak stocks Partridge salmon hooks, Fishin’ Fever in Halifax stocks Partridge salmon hooks and numerous other shops do as well.

Jamie, I was lookin for CS15’s specifically, but I didn’t see them on your site, although admittedly, I’ve never been the most observant. I managed to track some done from a friend, but I’ll have another look. I may need to place an order for some materials.

Brad,

Here is the url to the page with the Partridge CS15 hooks listed on it. They are on the bottom of the page on the left hand side.

http://flytying.jamiescustomflies.com/p … hooks.html

I was glad to see Mustad pick up Partridge. Partridge was and is an excellent hook and, no offense Jeff ( For those of you who haven’t met Jeff, he is a super nice guy), but in the past I have had whole boxes of Mustad come through too soft and bend way to easy…something in the tempering I would imagine and I never had that problem with Partridge. Mustad has always been the workhorse hook of the fly tyer. All others seem to me to be trying to eat into the market by producing a stronger , or hand made, or classier sounding, or laser sharpened or whatever hook and some did simply by their marketing strategy .Partridge did find a place for itself by producing a very good hook but was still a minor share in the market. When Bramley died, Partridge kind of fell apart… In direct opposite to what Parnelli said (sorry Par), I think the acquisition of Partridge added class to the workhorse and I am glad Mustad picked them up.
Apparently there is still some connection as Ole from Partridge donated some hooks through Steve Thorton for the Mayfly Club’s annual tying clinic on the Beaverkill a year or so ago. …Bob

Partridge hooks are great. I have used them for many years along with Mustad. There was a spell when Partridge really was inconsistent in quality with some hooks so bad I wouldn’t even waste my time tying on. When Mustad bought Partridge, things changed and the quality is as good or better than ever. Of course it has taken time to flush all those crappy hooks out of the pipeline and I am sure some slow movers will still be found hanging on the pegboards of some shops. The new stuff is marked made in Singapore.

I used a few at a tying demo this past weekend. A few of mine too. :smiley:

Happy Trails!
Ronn

It is funny how when we first start to tie flies, any hook will do. In the late 40’s when I made my first feeble attempts at tying with barnyard feathers and my mother’s sewing thread, any loose hook I found in my father’s tackle box would do. In the 50’s and 60’s it was Herters, mustad, Bregman and Allcock…what ever I could find. Into the 70’s and 80’s Mustad was easiest to obtain. They were fine except I would keep finding a whole 100 count box that would be too soft. They would bend down with the slightest pressure, often snapping off when you attempted to pull them back up. In the mid 80’s when I was a columnist for the original Fly Tyer magazine, Partridge sent all the writers a ‘care’ package asking us to try their hooks. Partridge had no doubt noticed that in the recipes just about everyone would list Mustad as the hook to use for the fly being step by stepped in the articles. There is something about English made items in the field of FT and FF that reeks of class and history. I started using themm and liked them very much. I continued to also use Mustad and still do to this day. They are both excellent hooks as are others. Ronn’s is the first negative comment I have heard on Partridge from any of the tyers I’ve been around for many, many years but I would guess that anytime a human has something to do with the making of any item, someone making that item can have a bad day and someone else gets the faulty results of that bad day. I am very glad that Mustad picked them up. However I was sorry to see Mustad drop some of the styles like the Jardine living nymph Grey Shadow hook. Speaking of hooks…they have become a big time collector’s item here in the East. Old boxes with labels intact to be sure, but especially the hand made salmon fly hooks so here is an investment tip. Buy some of Ronn’s hand made salmon fly hooks, get a signed card or letter with them and just stick them away where moisture can’t get at them. Use them by all means for tying too, but stick some away, just like his and other’s flies.
I have a good collection of hooks and individual hand made hooks in a glass top wood display box… Recently I had a fellow here at the house who had come to pick up a mantis diorama he had ordered a couple of years ago. I took him downstairs to show him my ‘big’ tying room, fly mounting area, and fly collection. My wife made a face and rolled her eyes as we passed her on the way to my “messy, cluttered , land-fill,” which she claimed would win a first prize if there were ever such a contest. He spotted the hook display and offered me a pretty fair price for it. I could hear my wife clear her throat from the adjoining room as I turned down his offer and heard it a bit louder when I turned down a further offer that was a little higher. I picked up his diorama and placed it in a box as he admired my fly collection and a pile of old FF/FT show programs that I had had signed by all the speakers and tyers, many no longer with us.
He gave me his card as we said our goodbyes asking to be given first shot if I ever decided to sell some of my collection. I could have sworn he was looking at my wife as he said this.

Bob, don’t get my comment wrong, the bad hooks I got were relatively few in number overall and I think from a very narrow time frame. Certainly not all of them but enough that I was shocked when I saw them because it was so untypical of Partridge. That, as they say, is a thing of the past.

As for hook collecting, thanks for the complement. Ron Reinhold’s hooks should really go into collections now because his place in angling history while relatively a short time span, should be significant for what he did. I only use the techniques and tools he developed. He produced 150 ± different hook sizes and styles which is an amazing feat. He had no knowledge or help from others about making hooks or japanning them. The equipment he developed truly belongs in a museum if it were not being used to continue to make hooks. It bears no resemblance of hook making tools I am sure. Every hook is done one by one completely by hand with the machines only doing ting thing at a time. I would love to see a real hook factory or at least one like I imagine the old Partridge operation. he japanning process is another thing. It is really a black art. I could never have figured out how to do it but Ron R. did. He worked tirelessly testing, and testing.

My role in this hook making is extremely minor if at all. My goal was to keep what Ron R. developed going after he quit. It needed to continue because it is so special.

Hook collections. Ron has a collection of vintage hooks, mostly but not limited to salmon hooks maybe anywhere. I am sure Mustad has a collection somewhere. Ron’s collection is absolutely amazing by any measure. hundreds upon hundreds of blind eye salmon hooks from probably all of the old hook makers. It also belongs in a museum. It is for sale too. Wish I could buy it too.

As tyers, we don’t often think of our hooks much when we use them. I tended to and had thousands of hooks of many styles and sizes so that when I tied a fly, I would have the right hooks. When I started to tie fully dressed flies, I really started to think about the hooks because I wanted the hook to play a major role in the finished fly. Like many others, I fancied “making” my own hooks and tried it mostly by reshaping existing hooks. Also like most others, I came to the point where things get real tough, cutting barbs, heat treating and finishing. I ended up basically quitting when I talked Ron R. into doing that part for me and I bent and tapered the wires how I wanted them. I thought I had a fair amount of knowledge about making hooks until I bought Ron’s business and learned how he did it. How little I knew! I have a new respect for what he did and take great joy and satisfaction to be able to do it now. Frankly, I am still stunned that I am actually doing this.